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In Israeli Jewish schools, no teaching about Christianity
CNS ^ | April 17, 2009 | Judith Sudilovsky

Posted on 04/17/2009 1:44:53 PM PDT by NYer

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To: calex59
Name the school, name the curriculum,...

Um...you don't have a Christian education at all if you don't know about the Jews.

21 posted on 04/17/2009 2:33:02 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"It claimed to replace `Am Yisra'el with the chr*stian church and the Torah with a post-Biblical ceremonial drawn mostly from paganism."

.....here we go again, that is soooo Fourth Century. The history of Judaism is a string of Covenants between the Jews and God that were broken by the Jews. Jesus came to bring a new and everlasting covenant, replacing all that came before it. This new and everlasting covenant is not exclusive to the "chosen" people, but available to all who will believe and follow the word of God.

22 posted on 04/17/2009 2:38:31 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

Sounds like you could use a course in Judaism.


23 posted on 04/17/2009 2:57:23 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: rightwingcrazy
"Sounds like you could use a course in Judaism."

I am comfortable with my working knowledge, which according to the article far exceeds the knowledge that most Jews have of Christianity. I have 17 years of Catholic education that put a lot of emphasis on the Old Testament and Biblical history and I lived and worked in Israel for the better part of two years.

24 posted on 04/17/2009 3:01:25 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

“Although true, it has absolutely nothing to do with the original story or my comments.”

It has about as much to do with the story as a Jewish School teaching Christianity.


25 posted on 04/17/2009 3:03:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Romulus

‘Israeli educators are doing their students no favors by confining them to a ghetto worldview that cripples their ability to deal with people who aren’t just like them.”

While I agree a certain amount of education is beneficial the term ‘ghetto’ reveals your stance on Jews.


26 posted on 04/17/2009 3:04:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Natural Law
.....here we go again, that is soooo Fourth Century. The history of Judaism is a string of Covenants between the Jews and God that were broken by the Jews. Jesus came to bring a new and everlasting covenant, replacing all that came before it.

Thank you for your honesty.

This new and everlasting covenant is not exclusive to the "chosen" people, but available to all who will believe and follow the word of God.

This "new and everlasting covenant" is exclusive to non-Jews since it demands that Jews abandon the Torah. (Funny how chr*stians attack Jews for "breaking" the "old covenant" when their real beef is that the Jews won't break it.)

27 posted on 04/17/2009 3:05:36 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Biqrovay 'eqqadesh, ve`al-peney khol-ha`am 'ekkaved . . .)
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To: driftdiver

Oh yeah? So what is my stance on Jews?


28 posted on 04/17/2009 3:10:43 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: NYer

Do Catholic schools teach that Jesus isn’t the Messiah? Religious schools should teach their religion and respect for others that disagree.


29 posted on 04/17/2009 3:13:06 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: Zionist Conspirator
it demands that Jews abandon the Torah.

It doesn't. Christianity explains the Old Testament in the light of the New and teaches that the Mosaic Law is not binding on Christians of any ethnic stock. However, some Jewish converts to Catholicism keep the Jewish Law all the same, and that is just fine according to the Church. Christians are free to leave the Old Covenant but there is no demand that they do so.

30 posted on 04/17/2009 3:13:43 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: HospiceNurse
Do Catholic schools teach that Jesus isn’t the Messiah?

Uhm, you'd better check with Georgetown and Notre Dame before answering too quickly.

31 posted on 04/17/2009 3:14:53 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: HospiceNurse

There is a difference between disagreeing about Christ and ignorance.


32 posted on 04/17/2009 3:15:08 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Romulus
So what is my stance on Jews?

(Let me answer for him) Ghettoish!

33 posted on 04/17/2009 3:16:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Natural Law

Yet your words suggest a basic misunderstanding. In normative, traditional Judaism...

anyone can be considered 100% righteous without being Jewish, and furthermore will receive a place in heaven and a heavenly reward for being so;

anyone can choose to be bound by the covenants of Judaism at any time; these covenants are not restricted, as you imply, to a restricted club of “chosen” ones;

On the other hand, I cannot think of a single mainstream faith that doesn’t identify unique benefits for its adherents. If I’m wrong, I welcome you to list those that do.


34 posted on 04/17/2009 3:19:00 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I think you need to be more fair of your Christian friends. Christians don't demand Jews break their convents - when is the last time you heard a Christian berate anybody for following a stricter law?

Indeed Protestantism's view is that we are “free” from some of the ceremonial laws but still bound by the moral law. There are no Christians running around dissing Jews because they want Kosher food, or reciting the Shema. Maybe 500 years ago, or maybe from cults, but NOT mainstream Christianity.

BTW, if the majority of Christians really did not consider Judaism a fellow traveler, why would they be the only people on earth who unequivocally support the nation of Israel's right to exist?

One serious question for you - Why do the Jewish people historically seem to identify with the oppressors and demean their protectors? Why would the Jewish vote prefer Obama to Bush? Carter to Reagan, etc?

35 posted on 04/17/2009 3:19:01 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Romulus

Oh I dunno, define the word ghetto.


36 posted on 04/17/2009 3:20:53 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I learned very little about the Jewish religion in Catholic school and NOTHING about Islam.

I don’t have a problem with this. In fact, I have much bigger things to worry about.


37 posted on 04/17/2009 3:48:53 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: goat granny; nickcarraway
My thoughts also......so what. Who would expect a Jewish school to teach Christianity?

It should come as no surprise that we measure time based on the life of Christ - BC and AD. Many have proclaimed themselves to be messengers of God; He is he only one that was pre-announced and not just in the Bible. Secular history which affects ALL of us is forever intertwined with religious groups. The Crusades are part of history, as is the UN declaration that established the Jewish state. Christianity is part of history as is Judaism and Islam. The sooner we get to know each other, the better our chances to live together in peace.

38 posted on 04/17/2009 3:56:03 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Is this something I’m supposed to get all incensed about? Sorry.

No ... it is intended to enlighten you and others. Ignorance is often the source of bias and hatred. That, in turns, leads to incensed reactions. Would you agree? How knowledgable are you in the christian faith?

39 posted on 04/17/2009 4:08:11 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: goat granny

You wrote:

“My thoughts also......so what. Who would expect a Jewish school to teach Christianity?”

1) It’s not a “Jewish school”. It’s an Israeli school. Not all Israelis are Jews.

2) So Jews should be ignorant? Christians rather routinely teach their children in Christian schools SOMETHINGS at least about other religions. Why would you want Israelis to be ignorant?


40 posted on 04/17/2009 4:19:56 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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