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In Israeli Jewish schools, no teaching about Christianity
CNS ^ | April 17, 2009 | Judith Sudilovsky

Posted on 04/17/2009 1:44:53 PM PDT by NYer

JERUSALEM (CNS) -- Daniel Rossing uses one word to sum up the extent of teaching about Christianity in Israeli public schools: none.

"The answer is very simply no. Israeli students do not learn about Christianity in school," said Rossing, director of the independent Jerusalem Center for Jewish-Christian Relations.

"All indications are that there is a very widespread ignorance with regard to Catholicism in general and in particular in regard to the revolutionary changes which have taken place in the Catholic Church regarding Judaism and the Jewish people," said Rossing, who is an Orthodox Jew.

Rossing is considered an expert in education about Christianity. His center offers workshops and seminars about Christianity and interreligious studies for groups ranging from soldiers and teachers to the average Israeli who wants to learn more.

In May Pope Benedict XVI will be coming to a country where not only are Catholics less than 2 percent of the population, but where the vast majority of the general population has had almost no exposure to the Catholic Church. Rossing said a large part of the burden to explain the history and significance of the visit will be placed on the media.

When Pope John Paul II visited Israel in 2000, "the media was rather pessimistic up to the visit, but then, during the visit, there was a great turnaround and a lot of positive reporting," said Rossing. "There were news talk shows with important, intelligent people."

Because of the Jewish sensitivity toward the Catholic Church, one wrong word or gesture by Pope Benedict could garner all the attention and take away from the other aspects of the visit, said Rossing.

His center is planning a symposium to prepare the media just prior to the pope's visit, he said. He added that the Israeli government also senses the importance of the visit being seen in a positive light by the general public and the media.

"Everyone is working on it," he said. "How people react to the visit depends on how the media deals with it in terms of the quantity and quality of their attention."

Recently Rossing's center and the independent Jerusalem Institute for Israel Studies released the results of a survey looking at Jewish Israeli attitudes toward Christianity. Given the lack of exposure young people have to Christians and Christianity, Rossing said, he was not surprised by the results that showed young Israeli Jews tend to be less tolerant of Christians than people over 30 are.

"People in the 18- to 20-year-old category are solely the product of the educational system and don't have contact with Christianity, while (older people) have had other influences and opportunities for encounters," said Rossing. "If we were to do a similar survey (in regard to Jews) in Germany or France in the general population, I suspect the findings wouldn't be much different."

As far as education about Christianity goes, 68 percent of non-Orthodox Jewish respondents said that Christianity should be taught in schools and 52 percent said the New Testament should be studied. However, 73 percent of Orthodox Jewish respondents and 90 percent of ultra-Orthodox Jewish respondents opposed the teaching of Christianity in schools in any form.

Only 3 percent of the respondents said they had no opinion, indicating that people feel strongly about this issue, Rossing said.

Currently, if anything is taught, "it is about the Crusades and the Inquisition," he said. "There is no teaching of comparative religion."

As a minimum, educators like himself are pushing for teaching about the local Christian communities in the schools so students can learn about "our neighbors in this land," he said.

In schools where there are some local educational initiatives there is more freedom in the curriculum and more exposure to the history of Christianity as a religion, but it is not a formal education ministry program.

"Jewish kids in Israel who finish high school will be totally ignorant about Vatican II. They will not have a clue," said Rabbi Ron Kronish, co-director of the Interreligious Coordinating Council in Israel, which conducted a study of the issue 10 years ago. At the time there were a few attempts to approach the subject in cultural studies classes, he said, adding that not much has changed in the past decade.

He said most school-age children will not have heard of the previous pilgrimage to Israel by a pope.

"I have never heard about someone in Israel taking (it) upon himself to educate Jews about post-Vatican II Christians," said Rabbi Kronish.

Rossing said he felt that without a basic understanding of the history of Christianity and the influence of Christian culture, Israeli students are left with a big gap in their historical understanding of the world.

"It is hard to understand today's world without a good concept of Christianity and Israel, not to mention our neighbors," said Rossing.

He said that during workshops, representatives of his center have discovered that Muslims -- even those who live in mixed villages with Christians -- are almost equally as ignorant about Christianity as their Jewish counterparts.

"There is a tremendous need (for educating the public). There is something missing," he said.



TOPICS: Catholic; Judaism; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
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1 posted on 04/17/2009 1:44:53 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

The new King Hussein Mosque is pictured after a rain shower in Amman, Jordan, April 16. Pope Benedict XVI will visit the mosque and meet with Muslim leaders there May 9, during his weeklong trip to the Holy Land. (CNS/Bill Schaefer)
2 posted on 04/17/2009 1:45:49 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

So?


3 posted on 04/17/2009 1:47:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: nickcarraway
My thoughts also......so what. Who would expect a Jewish school to teach Christianity?
4 posted on 04/17/2009 1:51:25 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: NYer

Can’t say I blame them. I don’t want my schools teaching Islam. Perhaps teaching what Islam is (as one of the major world religions), but not teaching the actual faith.


5 posted on 04/17/2009 1:53:16 PM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: nickcarraway
"So?"

So there is a great deal of ignorance within the Jewish community with respect to Catholicism and Christianity. That ignorance is manifest in the positions, policies, and actions of individual Jews and the nation of Israel. It shows that Judaism remains a religion of exclusion just as it was when Christ came to bring the New and Everlasting Covenant and extended the faith to all peoples.

6 posted on 04/17/2009 1:54:15 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

Islam teaches about the Christianity and Jewish religions. They teach we are apes and dogs.


7 posted on 04/17/2009 1:57:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: NYer

Is this something I’m supposed to get all incensed about? Sorry.


8 posted on 04/17/2009 2:02:13 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: driftdiver
"Islam teaches about the Christianity and Jewish religions. They teach we are apes and dogs."

Although true, it has absolutely nothing to do with the original story or my comments.

9 posted on 04/17/2009 2:10:37 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

I agree it would be better to educate about other religions. But there are worse things to worry about.


10 posted on 04/17/2009 2:11:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: NYer

Do they teach a lot about Judaism in Christian schools? Should they?


11 posted on 04/17/2009 2:13:58 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: NYer

No one is suggesting that Israeli schools should evangelize the Jewish children, but since Catholicism is the single greatest factor is shaping the Western Civilization, one would think that that most Western of Asian countries, itself shaped by immigrants from the West, would have some interest in educating their kids a bit more broadly.


12 posted on 04/17/2009 2:15:47 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: NYer

Ok, why would this be news? Does anyone think that Jewish schools should teach Christianity since they don’t believe it? Jews, by definition, don’t accept Christ as the savior so therefore they wouldn’t teach it. What is this article about? Is it about trying to turn Christians against Jews, is it trying to justify muslims for not allowing Christians, or Jews, into their countries? I don’t see the point of this article.


13 posted on 04/17/2009 2:15:54 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Yaelle
Do they teach a lot about Judaism in Christian schools? Should they?

Actually, quite a bit. ;-)

14 posted on 04/17/2009 2:18:30 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: annalex
Two words for you comment, BS. Jews should not teach what they don't believe in. Do you believe in queers? Do you think American schools should teach about homos?

You don't think this is related? BS, it is exactly the same. We don't want values we don't believe in taught in our schools, Jews don't teach values they don't believe in and that includes Christianity. Anyone who thinks differently is a hypocrite of the highest order.

15 posted on 04/17/2009 2:19:51 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Natural Law
So there is a great deal of ignorance within the Jewish community with respect to Catholicism and Christianity. That ignorance is manifest in the positions, policies, and actions of individual Jews and the nation of Israel. It shows that Judaism remains a religion of exclusion just as it was when Christ came to bring the New and Everlasting Covenant and extended the faith to all peoples.

Chr*stianity did not claim to "extend the faith to all peoples." It claimed to replace `Am Yisra'el with the chr*stian church and the Torah with a post-Biblical ceremonial drawn mostly from paganism.

16 posted on 04/17/2009 2:20:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Biqrovay 'eqqadesh, ve`al-peney khol-ha`am 'ekkaved . . .)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; Yaelle
Do they teach a lot about Judaism in Christian schools? Should they?

Actually, quite a bit. ;-)

Name the school, name the curriculum, what course number is the course of Judaism? What's the name of it?

17 posted on 04/17/2009 2:22:30 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

You want to figure out Western culture, learn Catholicism. It is a matter of education, for the Jews’ own sake.


18 posted on 04/17/2009 2:23:47 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: calex59

Teaching about something isn’t the same as advocating it. I studied classical mythology in school. If you had a proper education in Western Civilisation, so did you — but no one expects us to embrace those stories as true.

Christianity is a reality in a great part of the world. So is islam. You can’t understand history or other cultures while being ignorant of the beliefs that underlie everything they do.

Israeli educators are doing their students no favors by confining them to a ghetto worldview that cripples their ability to deal with people who aren’t just like them.


19 posted on 04/17/2009 2:30:20 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: calex59
I didn't go to Christian School per se so I can only speak to my experience.

When I was a kid (from as early as I can remember) my parents were Sunday School teachers. My parents were good teachers and really made it come alive and all the Biblical characters (many of whom were my heros like David and Daniel and even Job) were Jewish.

We grew up with lots of Jewish friend and family so I was quite shocked when I learned that I wasn't Jewish.

20 posted on 04/17/2009 2:31:18 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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