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To: Radix

You are showing your ignorace by implying that somehow the New Testament emerged as full blown as Jonah belched from a whale. For more than three hundred years the Doctors of the Church debated the issue. Some material was excluded, and some was included after great debate. I can think of no one or no occasion when God spoke to church leaders and demanded that Revelation either be included or excluded. The New Testament may be the word of God, but its organization (and translation) was man-made.


145 posted on 04/07/2009 3:53:15 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: Melchior; airborne; AngieGal; auggy; bearsgirl90; BigBadWolf; Blogger; bradthebuilder; ...

I didn’t realize

That someone calling themselves a “Christian”

believed that Holy Spirit went back to Heaven or had

HIS HANDS AND VOICE TIED AND SILENCED

during that process.

I’m sure God is impressed that you’ve declared Him incompetent and/or AWOL in the compiling of The Canon.


148 posted on 04/07/2009 5:21:50 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Melchior; Quix
"You are showing your ignorace by implying that somehow the New Testament emerged as full blown as Jonah belched from a whale...."

I will not ever dispute the allegation that I am ignorant concerning Biblical things. I have during the course of my life made some attempts to deal with the matter. Regarding the origin of the compilation of the New Testament, I'd claim less than perfect knowledge, but certainly not complete ignorance either.

It seems from here that you are having things in more than one fashion. The "Church Fathers" acknowledged Revelation as inspired, and you seem to take exception to that fact.

Perhaps another look at the text might help you to discern.

"John, to the seven churches which are in Asia......."

I submit to you that if you would seriously take the time to even attempt to to discern just what the message following was about, you might better consider the true nature of the decisions of the 'Church Fathers'."

You seem to suppose that the Apostles in the first century knew less about the root of the Church than did the adherents who came along centuries later.

Good luck with that presupposition.

Here is a clue for you to think about........John was in the Spirit when he witnessed what he reports in The Apocalypse aka Revelation.

The seven churches are "types" of the Church over time.

I doubt that you will see it because you are already satisfied with what you have.

236 posted on 04/08/2009 3:27:50 PM PDT by Radix (Darkness cannot overcome Light.)
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