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To: vladimir998

Uh, a small number you say? Like YOU’D know. Unless you are a gynecologist, then please spare me.

As for private, what I mean is that they are not militant, they are private. You say they are militant about it and I say they are private, but then you suddenly launch into this thing about private sins. Please try to focus, focus, focus.

As for teaching truth, well, you must think you have the corner on the market for absolute truth, eh?

You are, like so many, outwardly religious, based on your little posts, but when it comes to what Christ asks of us, to be humble and so on, that seems quite lacking.

Guess I just don’t claim to know ALL the answers. I also note that you mentioned nothing about my RC friend with MS.

I’m sure you know just how many women AND men in this country happen to prevent pregnancy due to illnesses, diseases, medications they are on that could deform the child, and so on and so on.

I’m sure you do.


56 posted on 03/29/2009 7:52:30 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

You wrote:

“Uh, a small number you say? Like YOU’D know.”

Yeah, actually I would know.

“Unless you are a gynecologist, then please spare me.”

I’m not telling you my job, but I deal with this more often then you might expect in a very different line of work than what I had years ago. The last time it came up at my job was four or five days ago. No joke.

“As for private, what I mean is that they are not militant, they are private. You say they are militant about it and I say they are private, but then you suddenly launch into this thing about private sins. Please try to focus, focus, focus.”

You seem to be avoiding the basic point: contraception is sinful. Period. Whether or not people are privat or public about their sinfulness, or choice of sinfulness is immaterial as to whether or not the action is in itself sinful. You seem to think that keeping contraception quiet makes it okay as if working at Planned Parenthood alone makes it wrong.

“As for teaching truth, well, you must think you have the corner on the market for absolute truth, eh?”

No. All Christians, that’s ALL CHRISTIANS, denounced contraception until very recently in the history of Christianity. You might want to read the book, The Bible and Birth Control, which was written by a Protestant layman by the way. Provan, the author, does an especially good job of documenting what Protestants had thought of contraception since they started their sects in the 1500s. The complete and OVERWHELMING disgust shown by ALL Christians toward contraception until just a few decades ago is one of the things that made me realize just how unchristian contraception is. You, of course, have researched none of this, right?

“You are, like so many, outwardly religious, based on your little posts, but when it comes to what Christ asks of us, to be humble and so on, that seems quite lacking.”

You are, like so many, outwardly intelligent, based on your little posts, but when it comes to actually dealing with something, you become emotional and pretend the person you’re arguing with is less a Christian than you are. And of course, you do this in the same post where you accuse the other person of thinking he has “the corner on the market for absolute truth”. Wouldn’t that make you a hypocrite as well as ill informed? Yeah, it would.

“Guess I just don’t claim to know ALL the answers. I also note that you mentioned nothing about my RC friend with MS.”

I didn’t mention it because it was completely irrelevant to what I was addressing.

“I’m sure you know just how many women AND men in this country happen to prevent pregnancy due to illnesses, diseases, medications they are on that could deform the child, and so on and so on.”

Nope. And neither do you. What is known is that the number is small. Look at how many abortions are performed for “medical” reasons. It’s less than two or three percent. If the number of abortions for that reason is that small, then the number of contraceptive users using them for that reason would be proportional. Even Planned Parenthood has admitted that in the past.

“I’m sure you do.”

I’m sure I know more than you do. I’m also not a hypocrite. I’m far from perfect, but I’m not defending sin, making excuses for it or emotionally lashing out at those who actually defend Christian teaching. If you have a problem with any of that, then change. Your problems are your own.


62 posted on 03/29/2009 8:14:35 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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