Posted on 03/26/2009 5:25:37 PM PDT by chase19
Is the Obama Administration pressuring the Holy See to slience Archbp. Burke?
Context: Archbp. Burke recently made clear statements in an interview about pro-abortion Catholic politicians and Holy Communion.
It is written by Austin Ruse, "President of the New York and Washington, D.C.-based Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute (C-FAM), a research institute that focuses exclusively on international social policy."
Read the whole thing there, but this is the salient part:
Thursday, 26 March 2009 Hey, Obama: Hands Off Burke Print By Austin Ruse
A reliable source tells me that someone representing the Obama administration is about to put pressure on the papal nuncio to the United States to get Archbishop Raymond Burke to be quiet. The Obama complaint is that Archbishop Burke, who is now head of the Apostolic Signatura in Rome, has supported another bishop in his chastisement of Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius for her support of abortion.
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Burke closed the interview by issuing a challenge to his brother bishops, most notably Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C.: “Every bishop is held to the same universal discipline which has been in force since the time of St. Paul the Apostle and is stated in canon 915 of the Code of Canon Law.” And then this: “Whether Governor Sebelius is in the Archdiocese of Kansas City in Kansas, or in any other diocese [italics mine], she should not present herself for Holy Communion because, after pastoral admonition, she obstinately persists in serious sin.”
You can see why the Obama administration might get upset about this. They played footsie with pet Catholics of left and right last year and thought they had this kind of problem covered, since some of them have already offered cover for Sebelius. Two groups created to offer such services, Catholics United and Catholics in Alliance, started a petition drive saying Sebelius was really pro-life.
And now there is word that someone who is well known among Republicans, and who has served in previous Republican administrations, is reaching out on behalf of the Obama administration to get the Holy See to quiet Burke, or at least to make it clear he speaks not for the Church, but only for himself.
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But it’s not just questioning her fitness for office that offends Obama and his Catholics. They are also offended about Burke questioning Sebelius’s fidelity to the Catholic Church, for this strikes at the heart of their appeal to Catholics in the pews. Catholics who believe the Democratic answer to health care is more important than the murder of a million children a year desperately need the fiction that someone like Sebelius is a Catholic in good standing. Burke gives the lie to that assertion.
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The pressure won’t work, of course. Burke is just too smart, and tough. But Obama and his representatives are coming dangerously close to interfering in internal Church matters. [Just setting the stage for what is to come.] More than anything else, the free exercise clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution was intended precisely to protect religious bodies from meddling by the state, even covert meddling by the White House like this. Obama and his pet Catholics should back off – and fast.
prismsinc, it was 54% per the Pew report.
B, it was a crazy time. I could’ve gotten a bad case of dyslexia. I was so pissed when they called Obama the winner I wanted to throw my TV into the pond in my backyard.
I think you’re correct. The fact that ONE true Catholic would vote Obama? Hard to absorb, really. We try to spread the word, but they prefer to believe the TV over good friends, family, neighbors, or fellow Catholics. Humanity, at times, completely escapes me.
I think the number of 70% applied either to single women, or Jews, or both.
You’re correct about that. The fact that it is not 0% is shameful.
That brings up a whole bunch of other issues like priestly formation, Vatican II, etc.
What I’ve been made to understand by many Catholic Democrats is “I’ve been a Democrat all my life”. What I take from that is that these boneheads actually think Obama is the second coming of JFK. How ludicrous! This half-breed homo-Fascist couldn’t shine JFK’s shoes. But these old school Dems want to believe it, even if it’s not true. It’s tragic & irresponsible.
In related news, I wanted to make sure you got this link to the possibly GOOD news about Notre Dame: the UNINVITE OBAMA PETITION now has a phenomenal 223,607 signatures (sign up and send it to everybody in your Address Book!)
...And a BIG, BIG PROTEST IS A-COMIN' which stirs my activist imagination and makes me think Obama is gonna unite us after all :o)
Imagine 20,000 young, old, tie-dyed, purple-haired, properly-hatted and mantilla-covered, Catholic and not-Catholic-by-a-long-shot, All-Baby-Loving conservatives in the streets of South Bend singing
Please forgive me if I've pinged you more than once. I'm getting kinda excited, here....
done to all the Vatican and ND.
I have also asked that the Pope tell the Priests in the north east of this country to actually start telling their flocks that we do not agree with homosexuality, abortion or stem cell.
Excellent idea.
Priests for Life has a lot of resources to help priests address abortion in their sermons. Commentaries on different Sunday Scriptures, tapes for Fr. Pavone speaking, etc. You might want to pass this link on to your parish priests; or send it to your bishop and ask him to send it to all the priests in his diocese...
I will do consider it done.
Maybe if enough e-mails get to the Vatican telling them about how many in the north east are not going by their religion and that Priests are not teaching/reminding their flock then maybe the Pope could send a memo out to them and tell them they have to tell their flock that a religion is something which is not for a Sunday and christmas eve but every day
The timing sure IS interesting. Looks like a battle royal shaping up between Obama and the Catholic Church. If I were a gamblin’ type, I know where my bets would be...
Unfortunatly, my vote would be with Dear Leader as the American Catholic Church voted with him and from the outside looking in as a Lutheran seems to be more Catholic Lite then Roman Catholic.
And if the sitting President thinks he is ‘bigger than the Pope’ because he thinks he’s some kind of messiah bringing his salvation to the world . . . he’s not just a fool (who has said in his heart ‘there is no god’), he’s a d@mn fool.
This jerk knows he’s bigger than the Pope. At least in the US as Catholics voted in the majority for him.
“Looks like a battle royal shaping up between Obama and the Catholic Church. If I were a gamblin’ type, I know where my bets would be...”
There have been a few throughout history that have thought they could get rid of that pesky Catholic Church.
Somehow they’re still around. Sorta like someone is protecting them...
Oh, your observation is correct: self-identified Catholics voted for Obama by 53.4%, which is within 0.5% of the way the whole electorate of the USA voted, and within 1% of the way all self-identified non-Catholic Christians voted.
Observant Catholics ("Do you go to church once a week or more?") favored McCain by a couple of points, virtually identical to observant non-Catholic Christians.
You have the stats on Lutherans, I presume? I'd like to see them.
OK. So, in other words, more people call themselves Catholics or Christians, than actually are in practice. And BTW, the percent that believe they're going to heaven exceeds the percent who believe in God.
It's bad, bad news.
But what else is new?
In Jeremiah's time, were there not 700 prophets of Baal vs. one prophet of the True God?
Here's something to keep your eye on: (1) the Catholic Church has a very well-defined body of beliefs, findable on Google and with a search function, even --- no squirmy ambiguity, no excuse for not finding it perfectly clear, (2) the Church will win in the end (I looked at the back of the book), and (3) there's a helluva fight going on at Notre Dame.
Keep in mind that Obama-Baal's preferred approach to the Church is sweet words, attempted seduction, and stealth, not noisy, bellicose assault.
The Notre Dame thing is turning --- ah --- bellicose. This screws up his plans.
When we sit down and think about it, it looks like it's hopeless. But when we stand up and fight, there's hope.
Anyone looked back at this article? Just curious. Seems like they have cooperation now in getting rid of Cardinal Burke.
What a battle we are in. Can’t wait to see Mary crush the head of the serpent.
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