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Old Calvinism is Now the New Calvinism
American Vision ^ | March 23, 2009 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 03/23/2009 11:32:12 AM PDT by topcat54

Calvinism is back,” so says David Van Biema in the March 22, 2009 issue of Time magazine. Calvinism is listed as one of “10 ideas changing the world Right now.” It’s third on the list. When most people hear the word “Calvinism,” they bite down only on the gristle of predestination and then spit out the whole piece of meat. There is much more to Calvinism that is obscured by the misapplied aversion to particular redemption. As a student at Reformed Theological Seminary in the 1970s, I was taught that certain cultural applications flowed from a consistent application of Calvinism. Calvinism is synonymous with a comprehensive biblical world-and-life view. Simply put, I was told that the Bible applies to every area of life. To be a Calvinist is to make biblical application to issues beyond personal salvation (Heb. 5:11–14).

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To: fatboy

You’re welcome.

And insofar what John Calvin said was consistent with Scripture, I agree with him. Where he strayed from Scripture, I disagree.


21 posted on 03/23/2009 12:29:21 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray and Prepare)
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To: Amos the Prophet

I happen to agree with you Amos. I think a general education in Systematic Theology by Calvinist, Arminian as well as Covenant and Dispensational writers is useful but most believers are not interested.


22 posted on 03/23/2009 12:30:18 PM PDT by fatboy
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To: Blogger

I agree with you Sir. Just so you know, I’m not a strict Calvinist. (I’m a 4.4 pointer).


23 posted on 03/23/2009 12:33:00 PM PDT by fatboy
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To: fatboy

I am a 5 pointer. But I am not part of the same group Topcat is part of.


24 posted on 03/23/2009 12:34:45 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray and Prepare)
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To: Blogger
The only “ism” I care about is biblicism. ...If I find it in Scripture, I believe it.

Well, if you find "biblicism" in scripture let me know. ;O)

25 posted on 03/23/2009 12:41:27 PM PDT by HarleyD (US-Borrowing money from China to pay for abortions in Mexico)
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To: Blogger
And insofar what John Calvin said was consistent with Scripture, I agree with him. Where he strayed from Scripture, I disagree.

That's a terrific idea for everyone and everything! I'll join that church.

26 posted on 03/23/2009 12:43:16 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: topcat54

The greatest Reformations always have occurred in our bleakest hours. It isn’t surprising that Calvinism would rise up once again at such a time as this with it’s focus on God’s sovereign will.


27 posted on 03/23/2009 12:43:52 PM PDT by HarleyD (US-Borrowing money from China to pay for abortions in Mexico)
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To: Blogger; fatboy
The one that topcat has not been given the right to define.

Let me guess. "No creed but Christ"-type biblicism.

Topcat is a known antagonist,

As opposed to roaming gnomes with comments like:

The only “ism” I care about is biblicism. Beyond that, any of man’s constructs is dung.

28 posted on 03/23/2009 12:44:14 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Naysayers" laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
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To: topcat54
Let me guess.
Nope. Not interested.
29 posted on 03/23/2009 12:48:57 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray and Prepare)
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To: topcat54

CHOOSE CALVINISM!

Will Wallace
-To the famous “Wizard of Oz” tune- “If I only had a will!”


30 posted on 03/23/2009 12:49:24 PM PDT by will of the people (To the famous "Wizard of Oz" tune- "If I only had a will!")
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To: HarleyD
The greatest Reformations always have occurred in our bleakest hours. It isn’t surprising that Calvinism would rise up once again at such a time as this with it’s focus on God’s sovereign will.

There is also a great opportunity to teach full-orbed Calvinism to combat the inane Left Behind nonsense that is common in confession-less Christianity.

31 posted on 03/23/2009 12:51:37 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Naysayers" laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
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To: Blogger
Nope. Not interested.

Well, it was good to have you here for a time. Cheerio, mate.

32 posted on 03/23/2009 12:53:41 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Naysayers" laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
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To: topcat54

We’re the Lord’s elected few,
let all the rest be damned.
There’s room enough in Hell for you,
We don’t want Heaven crammed.


33 posted on 03/23/2009 12:54:39 PM PDT by tumblindice (Calvin tortured Hobbes to death)
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To: All
BTW, if y'all have a chance, please listen to John MacArthur's recent series on the Grace to You radio broadcast on the doctrines of grace (aka the 5 Points of Calvinism). Excellent stuff. Too bad MacArthur is not more consistent in his Calvinism, limiting it to just 5 points as he does.
34 posted on 03/23/2009 12:58:40 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Naysayers" laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
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To: topcat54

Again, the objection is to you trying to define what I mean and then swiping at whatever straw man you construct. I have been in that situation on these threads and am not interested in having a known antagonist do it again.

I said what I meant by biblicism. In spite of this, you still want the control to define what I mean. I’m simply not letting you do it.


35 posted on 03/23/2009 12:59:42 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray and Prepare)
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To: tumblindice
Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.
36 posted on 03/23/2009 1:01:14 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Naysayers" laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
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To: tumblindice; topcat54

We’re all God’s children,
let us all rejoice.
He really love us everyone
Let’s help Him make His choice.


37 posted on 03/23/2009 1:03:47 PM PDT by HarleyD (US-Borrowing money from China to pay for abortions in Mexico)
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To: Blogger
Again, the objection is to you trying to define what I mean and then swiping at whatever straw man you construct. I have been in that situation on these threads and am not interested in having a known antagonist do it again.

How can anyone object to what you have not defined? It's your choice, don't blame us.

BTW, Calvinism is what is found in Scripture, doncha know?

38 posted on 03/23/2009 1:05:42 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Naysayers" laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
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To: topcat54

I agree, Calvinism, carefully and explicitly defined, is found in Scripture. Not everything John Calvin taught is.


39 posted on 03/23/2009 1:07:28 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray and Prepare)
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To: topcat54

Is this the same John Calvin that murdered Michael Servetus?

Why would anyone follow a murderer?


40 posted on 03/23/2009 1:12:47 PM PDT by lbama
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