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To: P-Marlowe; fproy2222
It is quite clear that Taylor is saying the the Christianity of the 19th Century was "a perfect pack of nonsense" and "it is as corrupt as hell and the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century"
So I don't see your point here.
Taylor was not taken out of context. Taylor saw the Christianity of the 19th Century as the work of the devil.

You can see that, I can see that, nearly all of the posters here can see that. What seems to be asserted is that the title of the speech was suppose to be something to encourage the mormons to do better, therefore that portion had to do with encouraging mormons to do better too. If that speech had stayed on that theme, the disputed quotation would never have occurred. But when you read the whole thing, Taylor starts to get off subject about half way. There have been agitators from another website trying to accuse anti's of lying and some how Taylor's view of Christianity as presented in now some kind of lie.

210 posted on 03/24/2009 7:02:19 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: Godzilla
There have been agitators from another website trying to accuse anti's of lying and some how Taylor's view of Christianity as presented in now some kind of lie.

And those who would assert that would be liars.

214 posted on 03/24/2009 7:13:28 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Godzilla; P-Marlowe

There have been agitators from another website trying to accuse anti’s of lying and some how Taylor’s view of Christianity as presented in now some kind of lie.


This is a big problem the LDS have. They claim to be the only true church, but when confronted with problems, they say “we don’t believe that anymore” or “that person was speaking as a man, not a prophet.”

How can they know when the prophet is speaking as a prophet. And when the prophet spoke as a prophet and then an new prophet contradicts the earlier prophet.

The JoD was considered scripture by the saints of the time, yet now it isn’t?

Then how can they claim they are still the “true” church founded by JS, and claim to be glad there are prophets, when they ignore these same teachings and prophets. If they no longer believe it, then how can they claim to be the “true church”.

“Cafeteria Mormonism” is rampant apparently.

God does not change. God is not a liar. God is not a God of confusion. At least not MY God.

The LDS god, OTOH, apparently is.


220 posted on 03/24/2009 7:35:43 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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