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HOW SOME ANTI-MORMONS MIS USE THE TRUTH. (OPEN)
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Posted on 03/23/2009 10:27:54 AM PDT by fproy2222

I am tired of how some anti-Mormons here at FR, and other places, mis-use the history and teachings of my Church.

This was posted:::::::::

“”””” President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); “””””

Here is the part of the article not posted for you and as you read it, you will find that it does not say the things about my church that is implued by leaving out large parts of the text.

Please note, the address is to us, the LDS people, from one of the church leaders at the time, telling us that we are not doing what we should and that we must do better.

In no way is President Taylor saying what the original post says he is saying..

Notice how the “…” jump the first part of the post into another sentence and into another thought.

The information is taken out of context and turned into an untruth.

I have put “{{}}” around the parts posted to make it easer to see the misuse of this document.

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We have first to learn submission to the will of God ourselves, through various trials, persecutions, and the development of our weaknesses and imperfections, and thereby learn to appreciate the goodness and blessings that flow from him. We must see that we ourselves first learn obedience, and then teach others. But how can we teach others a lesson which we have not learned ourselves?

There is not nation now that acknowledges that hand of God; there is not a king, potentate, nor ruler that acknowledges his jurisdiction. We talk about {{ Christianity }}, but it {{ is a perfect pack of nonsense }}. Men talk about civilization; but I do not want to say much about that, for I have seen enough of it. Myself and hundreds of the Elders around me have seen its pomp, parade, and glory; and what is it? It is a sounding brass and a tinkling symbol; it is as corrupt as hell; {{ and the Devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work that the Christianity of the nineteenth century. }}

(Journal of Discourses, 26 vols. [London: Latter-day Saints' Book Depot, 1854-1886], 6: 167.)

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To: restornu
 
What will happen to them lukewarm MORMONs are eating of the Tree in the Garden...
 
 

 

381 posted on 03/26/2009 2:58:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
I am talking about the daily on slot of of what EVER I post positive on the LDS none of you have never accepted!


382 posted on 03/26/2009 3:01:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu; greyfoxx39; colorcountry
you never did believe

Reading another poster's mind is a form of "making it personal."

All of you: do not let this thread become "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of making it personal.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

384 posted on 03/26/2009 4:19:44 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you, RM.


385 posted on 03/26/2009 4:53:10 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Recession-Your neighbor loses his job, Depression-you lost your job, Recovery-Obama loses HIS job.)
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To: Religion Moderator

It was a question posed to me RM

“And, we are supposed to believe all of the following to be the truth?????”

and I answered in context of the posting here on the religion forum, I was not making it personal only addressing the fact that what “ever” I posted positive about the LDS none here have “never” believe it !


386 posted on 03/26/2009 5:10:04 PM PDT by restornu (Moreover he refused the tabernacle of Joseph, and chose not the tribe of Ephraim: Psalm 78;68)
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To: restornu
ƃuıɥɔʇɐʍ puɐ ƃuılıǝɔ ǝɥʇ uo ƃuıpıɥ ɹǝʞɹɐɯǝɔɐld ʎʇılıqısıʌuı ɟo ʞɐolɔ ɐɾuıu
... not making it personal placemarker

388 posted on 03/26/2009 5:32:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I, El Rushbo -- and I say this happily -- have hijacked Obama's honeymoon.")
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To: Alamo-Girl

excellent post. worth reading a couple of times.


389 posted on 03/26/2009 5:38:09 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu
Placemark
390 posted on 03/26/2009 7:53:00 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: reaganaut
Thank you so much for your encouragements, dear sister in Christ!
392 posted on 03/26/2009 8:34:03 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Elsie
  Mark 5:1-21
  1.  They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes.
  2.  When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an evil  spirit came from the tombs to meet him.
  3.  This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him any more, not even with a chain.
  4.  For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him.
  5.  Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones.
  6.  When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him.
  7.  He shouted at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? Swear to God that you won't torture me!"
  8.  For Jesus had said to him, "Come out of this man, you evil spirit!"
  9.  Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?"   "My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many."
 10.  And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area.
 11.  A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside.
 12.  The demons begged Jesus, "Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them."
 13.  He gave them permission, and the evil spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned.
 14.  Those tending the pigs ran off and reported this in the town and countryside, and the people went out to see what had happened.
 15.  When they came to Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons, sitting there, dressed and in his right mind; and they were afraid.
 16.  Those who had seen it told the people what had happened to the demon-possessed man--and told about the pigs as well.
 17.  Then the people began to plead with Jesus to leave their region.
 18.  As Jesus was getting into the boat, the man who had been demon-possessed begged to go with him.
 19.  Jesus did not let him, but said, "Go home to your family and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you."
 20.  So the man went away and began to tell in the Decapolis how much Jesus had done for him. And all the people were amazed.
 
 
  Matthew 8:28-34
 28.  When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes,  two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way.
 29.  "What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"
 30.  Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding.
 31.  The demons begged Jesus, "If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs."
 32.  He said to them, "Go!" So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water.
 33.  Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men.
 34.  Then the whole town went out to meet Jesus. And when they saw him, they pleaded with him to leave their region. 
 
 

394 posted on 03/27/2009 4:17:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
HOW SOME ANTI-MORMONS MIS USE THE TRUTH. (OPEN)
 
 
I think the RULES about THIN-skinnedness have been posted in this thread.
 
If a person is so SENSITIVE that paper cuts are a life threatening danger;
they PROBABLY should seek professional help.

395 posted on 03/27/2009 4:22:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
By your meaning, that is and was received as a personal attack.

Do not make such accusations towards other Freepers personally.

397 posted on 03/27/2009 5:59:48 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: colorcountry
Why the mod lets you get away with this nonsense is beyond my comprehension!

Because there is a double standard.

398 posted on 03/27/2009 6:07:08 AM PDT by svcw
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To: Elsie
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399 posted on 03/27/2009 6:25:51 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Recession-Your neighbor loses his job, Depression-you lost your job, Recovery-Obama loses HIS job.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thank you so much for your excellent essay in post 357. Your words sing with truth.


400 posted on 03/27/2009 7:34:25 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Recession-Your neighbor loses his job, Depression-you lost your job, Recovery-Obama loses HIS job.)
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