An un-spiritual Catholic is still a victim of the religious conflict that started with the Battle of the Boyne. Getting the "English Government out" is a very simplistic understanding of the conflict. There are Irish Protestants in case you didn't know, and the Unionist and Protestant paramilitaries and political groups aren't going anywhere, even if the English government still leaves. It's undeniably a religious conflict that has branched out into fighting over geography, territory, and politics, but its religious nonetheless.
Bwahahahaaa... That is how it started “bubbling” but wait
So wait, are you laughing because I'm right? I'm a little confused.
It started as a religious conflict over Holy Land sovereinty. The fact that Anglican Britain joined France and the Vatican against Moscow does not change that it was a religious conflict. QED.
Which is why countries that experiment in personnel liberty (Not talking about genitals) often lose sight of the God given free will which the powers that be do not respect. United States had a good run, too bad it is fading. You seem to imply the teachings of Christ to some earthly institution, big mistake
I call your attention again to the non-theist personalities I used as examples. They didn't need God to believe in personal liberty and freedom.
So it's “religions” fault for secular authoritarianism, is that what you are implying. I got it, lol.
No, that's actually what you did to non-believers earlier when you listed murderous authoritarian governments as if all non-believers somehow have to answer for them. I believe in secular governments, which by their nature do not enforce religious intolerance. Stalin's Soviet Union, with his requirements of unending praise to the state and the dear leader, his miracles (Lysenkoism), and his Inquisition (the Gulags) was not secularism.
The Constitution of the United States and its government are secular. God and Christ are not mentioned anywhere in it, and the government is expressly forbidden from interfering in religious matters, establishing a church, and prohibiting anyone from practicing their beliefs. We're accountable to no church, priest, pope, or any other religious body, and should aim to keep it that way.
You have "southern" (Different mind you) denominational Irish Protestants all over Ireland mingling happily with "southern" Irish Catholics why? Could it be that the northern Irish Catholics feel a little repressed with English "occupation"? Why is it that northern Catholics in Ireland have a different POV as their "brethren", the southern Catholic Irish individual? Religious tolerance in the south but not in the North, hmmm....., wonder what the difference is?
So wait, are you laughing because I'm right?
No, I am laughing at the ignorance of the superiority complex of a secular "know it all" who thinks the Crimean War was started because Napoleon the III wanted a set of keys to some Churches. Also that the Crimean War was fought between "western" Christianity against "Eastern" Christianity even though Turkey (Muslim, Bwahahaha...) declared war on Russia which really got the ball rolling. You see, it was about Nationalism when the smoke cleared. Economic interest (Vital Black Sea trade) far outweighed religious "intentions". What religion was Britain and Turkey promoting again? You can say Napoleon III's excuse was to play politics with several powerful Catholic groups he was trying to appease, but that was not the main intention (To break Russia's stronghold). Turkey became involved because they wanted to spread "western" Christianity, again, bwahahaha... what the heck are they teaching in history classes....
They didn't need God to believe in personal liberty and freedom.
But Jefferson had no problem teaching with a Bible. I guess he thought morality (Which the State should not be in charge of promoting) should come from somewhere that was State sponsored (Jefferson was often a hypocritical creature at times).
The Constitution of the United States and its government are secular.
True but how many State Constitutions directly mention God or imply God? What is the religious makeup of the US? How is "secularism" (Wiping out God in the PUBLIC square) enhancing the US? How come Christianity was welcomed in the PUBLIC square until some oligarchy perverted Original intent and created some "establishment clause"?
Also why did you avoid all those secular societies that decayed from within because of well, secularism. You would be surprised at the influence the founders found in Ancient Greece about setting up a government. What did they modify and conclude Greeks' problems were?