Posted on 03/13/2009 9:38:22 AM PDT by TaraP
What is going on with our Electromagnetic Field? it seems to be Collapsing. Is this one of the *Signs* Jesus wants us to take notice of? what about the Mayan and Hopi Prophecy's? are they also eluding to the end time events we find in the Holy Bible? (Luke 21:24-28) They shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be fed away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring: men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Magnetosphere MayDay? Randa Jazairi 3-12-09
Something serious is happening in the cosmos. Have a look at the magnetosphere. It appears the fields are reversed or non-existent. No magnetosphere is something we have been warned about (there has been a huge hole in it for a few years now) and it really does appear to be so:
link to www2.nict.go.jp http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/index.html
Looks like Earth's charge is running down. No new current is flowing in. Blue lines should be on top and red lines on bottom, such as the magnetic field should dictate.
But they are not in such a way. The polarity is going the opposite way.
Should also be noted that there were many Gamma Ray Bursts today (10 in the past 7 days): http://grb.sonoma.edu/index.php And now this: COSMOS IS FALLING: The first fragments of shattered satellite Cosmos 2251 are about to reenter Earth's atmosphere. According to US Strategic Command, fragment 1993-036PX will reenter on March 12th, followed by 1993-036KW on March 28th and 1993-036MC on March 30th. These are probably centimeter-sized pieces that will disintegrate in the atmosphere, posing no threat to people on the ground.
Cosmos 2251 was shattered on Feb. 10th when it collided with another satellite, Iridium 33. Cosmos 2251 possessed about one and a half times more mass than Iridium 33 and to date appears to have produced more than twice the number of fragments.
link to spaceweather.com http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=10&month=03&year=2009 AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, CNN has reported that there has been an evacuation of the International Space Station. Of course, within minutes they said evacuation is cancelled but I don't think so. Hopi Prophecy says something about when the ISS falls, that is the last sign. For Discussion:
So it seems.
Thx.
Yes, I’m afraid you’re right, Quix. Big Brother’s watching our every move.
I don't agree at all, TC. The entire cosmos is God's holy scripture, continuously revealed. The truth is there for everyone to discover, and truth, like God, is everywhere.
INEED. INDEED.
God can make use of anything and everything for His Glory.
I thought Christians of all stripes knew that.
Sometimes it’s sadly interesting to see that cluelessness can lurk where one would not expect it, normally.
Savage Beast, you said — “Yes, I’m afraid you’re right, Quix. Big Brother’s watching our every move.”
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Yes, and there’s a “Bigger Brother” watching “Big Brother”, too... :-)
This “Bigger Brother” (the “biggest” by the way...) even knows my thoughts and what I’ll do before I even think it... kinda really scary, actually... :-)
Most people try to simply “push the thought out of their head” and pretend it isn’t so. It’s sort of like a little kid, standing in the middle of a room, with their hand over their eyes, saying “You can’t see me!”.... LOL...
Yes--as in a majority of the U.S. electorate.
True. Though that’s been pretty clearly the case since they elected Kennedy, AT LEAST THAT EARLY.
The truth that we can get from God's infallible Holy Word is qualitatively different than what we receive from general revelation. General revelation tells us that there is a God, and so all men are without excuse (Rom. 1:20), but it is not sufficient to tell us the details about God, His covenant with man, what He requires that we might have eternal life with Him.
The Westminster Confession of Faith puts it this way:
Although the light of nature, and the works of creation and providence do so far manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of God, as to leave men unexcusable; yet are they not sufficient to give that knowledge of God, and of his will, which is necessary unto salvation. Therefore it pleased the Lord, at sundry times, and in divers manners, to reveal himself, and to declare that his will unto his church; and afterwards, for the better preserving and propagating of the truth, and for the more sure establishment and comfort of the church against the corruption of the flesh, and the malice of Satan and of the world, to commit the same wholly unto writing: which maketh the Holy Scripture to be most necessary; those former ways of God's revealing his will unto his people being now ceased.There is nothing we can know for certain about God's salvation program, including His plans for the end of this world and the world to come, except from His infallible written Word.
The asylums are full of “self- evident” Napoleons. It takes more than raw assertion to make it so.
Insisting something is self-evident is a poor form of argumentation.
Sorry for the confusion. You may elide the first paragraph. That was for another post.
You said — “Insisting something is self-evident is a poor form of argumentation.”
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I don’t have to insist on it. All I have to do is state it and people of rationality see it immediately as self-evident. Nothing much more is required, than that... :-)
And we build quite a bit on “self-evident truths”, all the time... In fact, we *constructed an entire country* from “self-evident truths”.... :-)
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Of course, if you had been there, back then, you would have been arguing that these were really not “self-evident” were they... LOL...
So far you have a congregation of one ... you. The only thing self-evident about your claim is how lame it is.
You said — “So far you have a congregation of one ... you. The only thing self-evident about your claim is how lame it is.”
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Well, you’re not reading right then, if you think it consists of only one... :-)
We affirm that canonical Scripture should always be interpreted on the basis that it is infallible and inerrant. However, in determining what the God-taught writer is asserting in each passage, we must pay the most careful attention to its claims and character as a human production. In inspiration, God utilized the culture and conventions of His penman's milieu, a milieu that God controls in His sovereign providence; it is misinterpretation to imagine otherwise.This is stating, in basic terms, that the studier of Scripture MUST apply systematics and basic hermeneutical skills to the interpretation of Scripture. Specifically (when applied to dispensationalism) a "plain reading" of history, poetry, hyperbole, and metaphor apart from the application of grammatical hermenuetical and historical hermenuetical principles is, as the statement asserts, "misinterpretation."
So history must be treated as history, poetry as poetry, hyperbole and metaphor as hyperbole and metaphor, generalization and approximation as what they are, and so forth.
That's a difference without a distinction. No rational person here seems to be buying your argument.
I found this definition from the Bierce's Dictionary that seems to fit well in your case:
“self evident”: Evident to one's self and to nobody else.
The only Truth there is is God and His truth. God is everywhere. So is His Truth. We can know Truth only through God's grace, but It is ubiquitous.
You will not find insulin, the technique for producing the polio vaccine, or detailed instructions for safe blood transfusion in the scriptures, but these were all revealed to mankind through God's grace, and their revelation is a miracle. These miracles and the Truth necessary for mankind to work them were written in the cosmos, and, through God's grace, mankind was able to discover them.
When a cure for cancer or the secret for preventing war is discovered, the discovery will come from the cosmos, which is God's holy scripture, continuously revealed.
What does a tree or rock tell a pagan in Africa about Jesus Christ? What does a beautiful moonlit evening tell a Hindi about the Trinity, or the covenant of grace, or the indwelling Holy Spirit, or the age to come?
General revelation only confirms there is a God and so all men are without excuse before God. In order to know God truly and eternally, He had to condescend to bring truth and salvation down to man. This He did through the prophets of old and finally in the person of His son, Jesus Christ (Heb 1:1,2).
You will not find insulin, the technique for producing the polio vaccine, or detailed instructions for safe blood transfusion in the scriptures,
This all comes under the heading of common grace. God has created a world -- a universe -- that operates with certain unchanging laws. We can know and discover that world within the limits of the revelation given through that world.
But the God of the universe is not the god of pantheism. We cannot know anything infallibly by simply examining His creation since He has not chosen to reveal Himself personally to His people in that way.
General revelation and the laws of nature’s universe may help us find a cure for cancer, but they cannot help us find a cure for what truly ails us, a soul darkened by sin and misery.
Take away the infallible written Word of God and you would die in your sin. We all would.
You said — “I found this definition from the Bierce’s Dictionary that seems to fit well in your case: ...”
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Well, there was no need to give your last name, here... :-)
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And then you quoted — ““self evident”: Evident to one’s self and to nobody else.”
Who was this “self-evident” to?
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
:-)
I would say that you’re “out of touch with reality” in what this means, as we can see with the very formation of our country... LOL...
I would still like to ask you, what is the *Great Deception* GOD will send to the world in the Last Days?
Do you have a verse in mind? "great deception" doesn't give any hits in my Bible program. Are you referring to Rev. 20:7ff?
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