Posted on 03/13/2009 7:39:03 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
Ours drives a 10 yo Subaru.
I drive a 1990 Chevy 1 ton extended wheelbase van, 197,000+ miles on it.
My wife drives a '99 Jeep with over 220,000 on it.
The HECK you say!
Got no steenkin' BONA FIDES; either, Everett!
LOL!
Well, let me take a "stab" at this by word association:
"sacred" = consecrate
consecrate = set aside
set aside = one of the LDS "revelators" set it aside (and so it must have been accidentally "left out")
That's gotta be at least as good as what ole Joe Smith did with "eternal damnation" in the LDS "Doctrine & Covenants":
"eternal" = the eternal One
"eternal One" = JC
Therefore, eternal = JC
Therefore, eternal damnation = JC damnation
Therefore, JC damnation does not = eternal damnation
Therefore, damnation does not = eternal damnation
Therefore, damnation does not = damnation (either)
(Damnation just = damned up)
(Did y'all get Ole Joe's progressive reasoning, there?)
Here's how he put it in D&C 19:4-12:
4 And surely every man must repent or suffer, for I, God, am endless.
5 Wherefore, I revoke not the judgments which I shall pass, but woes shall go forth, weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth, yea, to those who are found on my left hand.
6 Nevertheless, it is not written that there shall be no end to this torment, but it is written endless torment.
7 Again, it is written eternal damnation; wherefore it is more express than other scriptures, that it might work upon the hearts of the children of men, altogether for my name’s glory.
8 Wherefore, I will explain unto you this mystery, for it is meet unto you to know even as mine apostles.
9 I speak unto you that are chosen in this thing, even as one, that you may enter into my rest.
10 For, behold, the mystery of godliness, how great is it! For, behold, I am endless, and the punishment which is given from my hand is endless punishment, for Endless is my name. Wherefore—
11 Eternal punishment is God’s punishment.
12 Endless punishment is God’s punishment.
Question for Mormons: If "wherefore it is written eternal damnation is more express than other scriptures," (D&C 19:7) why does he then turn around & claim this is some secret veiled "mystery" in 19:8? How can the written scriptures of "more express" be simultaneously less expressive and therefore a "mystery?" [Express and mystery are opposites!]
There's just a few other "bumps in the road" for Smith...one being that if endless eternal damnation = temporary separation from God, then what does that make...
...endless eternal kingdom of God???
...endless eternal celestial kingdom of God???
...endless eternal heaven???
Yup. If your answer is that God's kingdom, God's celestial kingdom, and God's heaven are likewise temporary durations, then I solemnly bequeath you with...
...C.U.T.S.A.T.A.N. honors!
[CUTSATAN= Consistency Urim & Thummin Smith Afterlife Theology AdNauseum]
That’s gotta be at least as good as what ole Joe Smith did with “eternal damnation” in the LDS “Doctrine & Covenants”:
“eternal” = the eternal One
“eternal One” = JC
Therefore, eternal = JC
Therefore, eternal damnation = JC damnation
Therefore, JC damnation does not = eternal damnation
Therefore, damnation does not = eternal damnation
Therefore, damnation does not = damnation (either)
(Damnation just = damned up)
Ow, that made my head hurt. lol.
BTTT
Where have you been?:)
Hey, been missing you. :) good to see you again.
Good to see you again, too...
:)
Lucy!
You got some Splainin’ to do!!
***I keep my horns filed down so I don’t scare them in public.***
What about that tail and those cloven hoofs!
We can dock your tail and I can make corrective iron shoes for your feet!sarc/;-)
Pass. I try to avoid being around people that are full of hatred.
***Keep trying. My son, the missionary, has baptized two this year.***
Did they become Mormons because they realized they were lost in SIN and needed a Saviour, or was it just for the social programs and church dances and get togethers.
I have never met a Mormon who joined because they felt they needed a Saviour.
Mormonism is a works based religion. ‘Savior’ is a self-made job to them.
***Pass. I try to avoid being around people that are full of hatred.****
WELL! If that is the way you are going to be We’ll dock your tail, shoe your cloven hooves, Gield you and stamp you with hot iron on the hip! I will even make the branding iron just for you with love!
But if you be nice we’ll just tie knots in your tail.8-D
I have never met a Mormon who joined because they felt they needed a Saviour.
I joined because I felt the need to have a “church”. The LDS view of salvation by works (exaltation) appealed to me. I grew up believing I could do anything I set my mind to, logically that led to believing I could save myself by my works, then if I fell short Jesus would “make up the difference”. I liked the focus on family, since my parents were divorced and I hardly ever saw my father (his choice). In some ways I was looking for a family.
I also found out a lot of the doctrines AFTER I joined. I had to do a lot of swallowing. I was also Biblically Illiterate (which made me a target).
I was self-righteous: “we have the TRUTH, no one else does”, “we have the AUTHORITY, no one else does”, “we have the TEMPLE like in the OT, they don’t”
I remember sitting in Sacrament, singing hymns and being so proud of myself that I was so reverent.
I have posted this story before but this experience is still seared into my mind as a reason I joined:
When I was 17 a college professor (the same one that later cautioned me against “thinking myself out of The Church”) invited me to General Conference. After I had dinner with his family. We went for a walk and as we were coming back he placed both hands to his chest, looked up at the sky and said “The Church is my life!”. I wanted that, I really did.
And I had it, a year later, right after my 18th birthday, I joined the LDS Church. And it was my life for several years. Church callings, Family Home Evening, Daily BoM reading, evening prayers kneeling in a circle. All of it.
By all accounts I was a good Mormon, but I wasn’t a Christian. Even though I really thought I was one.
Then the Lord did a wonderful thing in my life. He truly humbled me. I rented a room from a woman who was unrealistically demanding. Due to various reasons, I was unable to move to another location. She nagged me about everything, I had to do things perfectly, whether it was housecleaning, schoolwork, cooking, eating, even at church. I did my best to please her for years, I went above and beyond what I thought she wanted. It was never good enough, NEVER.
Then I realized if I could not please this woman who was so HUMANLY demanding, how could I please my Heavenly Father, who demanded so much more? If my best effort wasn’t good enough for this woman, how could it ever be good enough for God?
After I became a Christian, I found out what being a true Christian was. No “church” is my life.
Christ is my life! He is my EVERYTHING. And I love Him more and more every single day.
Me.
My wife.
A bunch of other people I know.
Give it up.
Thank you for posting this. Welcome home!
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