[dangus]

Yes! I had been reading much lately of Lepanto, Vienna, etc.; I’m embarrassed I forgot to make mention of Britain’s treachery against EASTERN Christianity.

[Cronos]

very true -- in some ways Jan Sobieski was the Eastern Charlemagne -- just like Charlemagne stopped the Arabs at Toulouse (or else they would have overrun western europe), JAn Sobieski stopped the Turks from taking Vienna.

We also need to remember men like Roger I, the Norman who saved Sicily from the Emirate of Sicily. Or the Norman Angevins who led the first crusade.