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Baylor Lariat, Catholic professor spar over indulgences revival
The Baptist Standard ^ | March 09, 2009 | Bob Allen

Posted on 03/09/2009 8:06:13 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

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1 posted on 03/09/2009 8:06:13 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

An indulgence is analogous to restitution.


2 posted on 03/09/2009 8:15:53 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: Alex Murphy

The thing is, some of us think the tradition is heretical compared to scripture, so consulting about heresy just isn’t going to be in the cards. Luther was right about indulgences in my book.


3 posted on 03/09/2009 8:30:37 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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In your book was Luther also right about the Blessed Virgin Mary and auricular confession?


4 posted on 03/09/2009 8:49:29 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Alex Murphy
So much is misunderstood about indulgences.

[What Every Catholic Needs to Know about] Gaining Indulgences [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]

5 posted on 03/09/2009 9:15:27 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RobbyS

“An indulgence is analogous to restitution.”

Who are indulgences paid to?


6 posted on 03/09/2009 9:17:37 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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7 posted on 03/09/2009 9:18:24 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The topic is indulgences. I’m not changing the subject. They aren’t scriptural, and in my book, the traditions of the Church (as in the Catholic one) are suspect.


8 posted on 03/09/2009 9:19:20 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

God.


9 posted on 03/09/2009 9:35:02 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: RobbyS

“God.”

The air mail cost must be a killer!

Now, practically speaking, who cashes the check?


10 posted on 03/09/2009 9:46:12 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: RKV
Whether they are “scriptural” or not depends on one’s interpretation of Scripture, and thereby we get into the original dispute with Luther on what is meant by such terms as justification and sanctification. The Catholic and the Lutheran(evangelical) views are not compatible, largely because Luther went in the direction of denying authority to the Church.
11 posted on 03/09/2009 9:47:53 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I don’t use much postage myself, because Pope Pius XII gave an indulgence for reading Scripture nearly sixty years ago.


12 posted on 03/09/2009 9:51:28 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: RobbyS

“Pope Pius XII gave an indulgence for reading Scripture nearly sixty years ago.”

So, there’s no monetary payment involved in indulgences?


13 posted on 03/09/2009 9:53:29 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

None, except perhaps the expense in going to a shrine or doing some other pious act.


14 posted on 03/09/2009 9:57:40 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: Alex Murphy

Nobody “issues” indulgences.

Properly understood, the concept of an indulgence is plain common sense.


15 posted on 03/10/2009 12:09:30 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: PetroniusMaximus

No. No money. And nobody “issues” indulgences.


16 posted on 03/10/2009 12:13:23 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: RKV

You wrote:

“Luther was right about indulgences in my book.”

Really, when? When he condemned them? Or a year or so later when he supported them?

The Lutherans were so embarrased by that second book that, when they were publishing the definitive German edition of his works in the nineteenth century, it took them over a century to release that volume even though it was written early in his career.


17 posted on 03/10/2009 3:06:35 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

You wrote:

“So, there’s no monetary payment involved in indulgences?”

NO!

And by the way, even when indulgences were given in exchange for indulgences the poor were not expected to donate anything for them. People who had money were expected to donate according to their position in society. This is clearly seen by the way in the very instruction letter written by the Archbishop of Mainz given to Johann Tetzel.


18 posted on 03/10/2009 3:10:30 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
So, there’s no monetary payment involved in indulgences?

Absolutely not. You get an indulgence for doing a pious work. For instance, I've gone on a weekend spiritual retreat, and we were given an indulgence at the end of it. You can get one from making a pilgrimage or even just saying particular prayers.

19 posted on 03/10/2009 6:38:17 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud

Saying the Anima Christi has to be my favorite one! I bought the Book of Indulgences issued by the Bishops Committee.


20 posted on 03/10/2009 7:24:21 AM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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