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To: ejonesie22

And therein lies the problem. All you see is an opportunity to criticize. It doesn’t matter where the info comes from or if it is even valid. And any contradictory info is declared to be “unclear.” The Left does this and we rightly protest this as unfair so why is it OK for you to do the same?


54 posted on 03/07/2009 12:35:48 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque
Actually on this thread I really have not criticized, indeed to a great extent the exact opposite.

In both principle and reality I agree with BYU's right to have a code and enforce it. Many intuitions have such a moral code including a couple I have been or am currently affiliated with.

There have been numerous cases I am sure where the code of BYU has been enforced quickly and directly and in a timely manner. Here, in this instance, there is a reasonable call to question certain elements of this case.

I will state unequivocally and for the record for all to see that Chad Hardy's actions do indeed violate the BYU code of conduct. There is no question in that.

The question is how it was done, it's timing and possible ramifications in the academic sense mainly do to factors beyond BYU's full control, those being licensing and accreditation as well as legal issues in the public court system.

This is not Mormon bashing, if a Methodist College had done the same thing (and they have) it too would be “problematic” in several key areas and I would also question those even of my own faith who would claim a “slam dunk” for the Church.

You claimed wishful thinking earlier, well it can cut both ways, and does until the gavel is dropped that last time, if it goes that far.

Tone the sensitivity down a notch or two and do something new for a change, actually read the post made, even by us so called “antis”, you may learn something new, and be surprised that it is not all “attack”...

57 posted on 03/07/2009 1:08:36 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: Reaganesque; lady lawyer; All

This what I keep wondering we were all given the Ten Commandments right!

So each faith has their guidelines some can dance, some can’t dance, some can drink and smoke, some can’t etc.

The LDS has their code of conduct.

1- So why should anyone on the out side question the Church policies I might not agree with another faith policy but I would respect that is how they do it!

This young man who is gay has issues with the Church stand on Gay Marriage and the fact he comes from a many generation of LDS makes it hard to resolve his conflict.

There is no getting around he wanted to strike back at the Church and he knew what he was doing with this shirtless calendar of return missionaries who most likely were not to keen going on a mission or it was like a vacation to them and not the Lord’s errand.

If you are a missionary you have a temple recommend and one has choosen to obey the covenants of modesty and being worthy to wear the garments.

Is because it is an BYU/LDS opportunity to have sport this has been going on for three days new post.

If that is the case say so....

Although I pray should there be an issuse in the mainstream that my prayers will be with you to practiced your faith according to your doctrine.


69 posted on 03/07/2009 2:58:21 PM PST by restornu (The Word of God is infallible but that doesnÂ’t automatically make the scribes infallible)
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To: Reaganesque
All you see is an opportunity to criticize. It doesn’t matter where the info comes from or if it is even valid.

Yeah... that seems to be a problem; doesn't it?


 
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

119 posted on 03/08/2009 4:42:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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