[lady lawyer]

Almost everything you have just said is your (or somebody’s) interpretation of the Bible. The Bible does not say it directly. I like my interpretation, you like yours.

I believe that Christ’s atonement is central to our salvation, and that it is a turning point in history. Without it, we could not return to God’s presence. I believe that He can talk to us directly, and does. But I also believe that He has restored the church He organized while He was on the earth, along with the priesthood power which He held and which he bestowed on His apostles.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that He would do away with prophets, your interpretation of the words, “It is finished,” notwithstanding.

What God said to Joseph Smith about sectarian Christianity was that they “hav[e] a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

Sometimes, I think that we Mormons are the only ones who really do believe in the Bible. Why do I say that? Because it is much easier to profess belief in prophets who are safely removed from the present day by thousands of years, but much harder to say, “I believe that the same divine communication and relationship with man described in the Bible exists today.”

It is the same human tendency that is described in the New Testament, when Christ was rejected by those whom He grew up with and who were very familiar with Him, and he said, “A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.”

[ejonesie22]

Funny that you would say that you think that Mormon's are the only ones who believe in the bible, since not only is it and it's words often dismissed in favor of LDS writings, but even Smith himself tried to rewrite it.

A little extension off you own logic.

Does it makes sense that, after all the effort that God put in in coming to dwell among us, to fulfill the promise of the true prophets like John the Baptist, that he would then in turn allow his Church to languish for 1800 or so years? Does it makes sense that the record has totally abolished all this new information that Smith has injected? Does it makes sense that all these new concepts were only known to him after 1800 years?

I spent several years in the Orthodox church, a group for whom not only doctrine but history shows a linage back to Paul himself, a time well before Nicea and there is no record of the thing of which Smith spoke of.

Where are the prophets of the past 200 years, the past 500, the past 1000?

[Elsie]

The Bible does not say it directly.

Nothing new under the sun...

 

Genesis 3:1

  Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, `You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?" 

 

Ohhh such a wise question!

 

 4.  "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman.
 5.  "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

 

 

His tactics haven't changed a bit!

 

1. Introduce DOUBT...

2. 'Explain' what GOD said...

 

 

 

 

 

[Elsie]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that He would do away with prophets, your interpretation of the words, “It is finished,” notwithstanding.

Huh?

Do you think we know NOTHING of THESE verses?

 

 

KJV 1 Corinthians 12:28-31
 28.  And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
 29.  Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
 30.  Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
 31.  But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

 

KJV 1 Corinthians 14:29
   Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

 

KJV Ephesians 4:11
   And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

 

KJV 1 Corinthians 14:32-33
 32.  And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
 33.  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

 

KJV 1 Corinthians 14:37-38
 37.  If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
 38.  But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

 

And Joseph Smith, ETAL, were warned about here:

 

 

KJV 2 Peter 2:1
  But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

 

KJV 1 John 4:1
  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.