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To: Marie2
Your insulting words are inappropriate.

No..., yes they are!

Your proof texts show only that you prefer to use scripture to prove your case even if it means discounting clear uncontrovertbale scripture.

What Thomas said is the figure of speech "hendiadys" and you can google that yourself.

As far as I and my father being one...

Jhn 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are].

Jesus prayed that his followers would be one "as we are one"...which would mean that they would be gods, too.

Show us the father?

No man hath seen God at any time. God is invisible. God is not a man. God is not the son of man.

Jesus, the man and son of Man, is the REPRESENTATION of the invisible God....

Your feelings are really inconsequential when compared to the idea that you don't know the difference between God and Jesus and what that implies. But I'm sure God's grace and mercy will cover a lot.

71 posted on 03/06/2009 11:21:29 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: Eagle Eye
you don't know

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of making it personal.

74 posted on 03/06/2009 11:26:30 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Eagle Eye

You can’t explain all the Scripture that calls Jesus God, assumes He is God, and gives Him attributes of God. For example, by Him all things were made, and nothing was made that was made (John 1). He is worshipped (without rebuke). He can’t sin.

Further, insulting words are not the mark of a Christian man.

“For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6)

The Bible calls Him God and so do I. The Bible also calls Him Son of God and so do I.


113 posted on 03/06/2009 1:55:52 PM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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