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To: Eagle Eye

Your insulting words are inappropriate.

“Then He said to Thomas, ‘Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.’ And Thomas answered and said to Him, ‘My Lord and my God!’” (John 20:27-28)

“I and My Father are one.” (John 10:30)

“Philip said to Him, ‘Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.’ Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father, so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father?’” (John 14:8-9)


64 posted on 03/06/2009 11:10:42 AM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: Marie2
Your insulting words are inappropriate.

No..., yes they are!

Your proof texts show only that you prefer to use scripture to prove your case even if it means discounting clear uncontrovertbale scripture.

What Thomas said is the figure of speech "hendiadys" and you can google that yourself.

As far as I and my father being one...

Jhn 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are].

Jesus prayed that his followers would be one "as we are one"...which would mean that they would be gods, too.

Show us the father?

No man hath seen God at any time. God is invisible. God is not a man. God is not the son of man.

Jesus, the man and son of Man, is the REPRESENTATION of the invisible God....

Your feelings are really inconsequential when compared to the idea that you don't know the difference between God and Jesus and what that implies. But I'm sure God's grace and mercy will cover a lot.

71 posted on 03/06/2009 11:21:29 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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