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CHRISTIANITY DEFINED - (LDS Site Defining Christianity) OPEN
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Posted on 02/22/2009 7:00:41 AM PST by greyfoxx39

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To: Tennessee Nana

Of course it would be careless to those who can not receive!

Mal 4
5 ¶ Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

When the second coming comes many will not die but changed in a twinkling of an eye.

Elijah did not die he was changed in a twinkling of an eye!

There are others on the earth that this has happen too!

BTW where is the Book of Elijah?

Oh dear, I guess the find Constantine clergy didn’t think they should include it!

I thank the Lord for the restoration so I do have knowledge of what happen to many of the Lord’s find servants.


201 posted on 02/22/2009 8:23:10 PM PST by restornu
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

***Tell me Ruy, have you ever seen a Bible verse for any of
the claimed “restorations” Restain’t mentioned?***

This is the only restoration I can find.

2Ch 34:14 And when they brought out the money that was brought into the house of the LORD, Hilkiah the priest found a book of the law of the LORD [given] by Moses.

2Ch 34:15 And Hilkiah answered and said to Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the LORD. And Hilkiah delivered the book to Shaphan.

2Ch 34:16 And Shaphan carried the book to the king, and brought the king word back again, saying, All that was committed to thy servants, they do [it].


202 posted on 02/22/2009 8:26:58 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: restornu
And you are sure?

Apparently you aren't.

In #133 you want to tell Christians that they should believe "...since Elijah never died, he will have to return to the natural realm and suffer death...," and now in #177 you want us to know that, "He was changed in the twinkling of an eye."

Is he going to die after being transformed so he can be re-transformed?

203 posted on 02/22/2009 8:32:37 PM PST by delacoert
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To: restornu

Mal 4
5 ¶ Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
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Elijah came back...this was fulfilled in John the Baptist...

Jesus talking about John the Baptist...

But I tell you that Elijah has already come, yet people did not recognize him and treated him just as they pleased. In the same way, the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” Matthew 17:12

But I tell you that Elijah has come, yet people treated him just as they pleased, as it is written about him.” Mark 9:13


204 posted on 02/22/2009 8:34:39 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
So why wasn't this book of Elijah restored, along with all these other books I keep hearing that man like your “Constantine clergy” took away?

If Joe Smith was restoring the faith and you as well as others talk of books being taken away, why did a “prophet of god” not have the ability to restore them as well as bring so called new scripture?

205 posted on 02/22/2009 8:36:18 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Acts 3 19 ¶ Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

206 posted on 02/22/2009 8:37:17 PM PST by restornu
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To: delacoert
Ooops..

Like I said to another LDser a day or two ago, if you can't keep the story straight or understand your own doctrine, well...

207 posted on 02/22/2009 8:37:37 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Isa. 2: 2

2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord’s house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isa. 11: 11

11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
Isa. 29: 14

14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
Jer. 31: 31

31 ¶ Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Ezek. 37: 26

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
Dan. 2: 44

44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Joel 2: 28

28 ¶ And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Amos 3: 7

7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
Micah 4: 2

2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Mal. 3: 1
1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts.

Mal. 4: 6

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Matt. 17: 11

11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

Matt. 24: 14

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Mark 9: 12

12 And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.

Acts 3: 21

21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Rom. 11: 25

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Eph. 1: 10

10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

Rev. 11: 3

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev. 14: 6

6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,


208 posted on 02/22/2009 8:37:55 PM PST by restornu
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To: Religion Moderator
Some posters would like to see the “open” thread format on the Religion Forum abolished. I am not one of them. I see the need for the town square format of religious debate among conservatives.

Sometimes I wish my wife and children would do what I say and never disagree. Then I remember I'm not infallible.

209 posted on 02/22/2009 8:51:24 PM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

I never said he died I said he was change in a twinkling of an eye.

or transformed as there were a few others.


210 posted on 02/22/2009 8:52:43 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

I never said he died I said he was change in a twinkling of an eye.
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Elijah was NOT “changed in a twinkling of an eye.”

There is no scripture to say he was...


211 posted on 02/22/2009 8:55:20 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

See post #78.


212 posted on 02/22/2009 8:58:46 PM PST by svcw (This maybe my last transmission - God have mercy on us.)
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To: restornu

Yes, well none of those Bible scriptures have anything to do with the conman, Joey Smith or his home made scam, mormonism...

BTW where’s the scripture about Elijah ???


213 posted on 02/22/2009 9:08:32 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: sevenbak; Arrowhead

Elijah never tasted death John the Baptist was like a forrunner or a shadow of.

Remember John the Baptist was beheaded by King Herod

ponder this John the Baptist was beheaded and there is this discussion among His disciples.

Mark 8

27 ¶ And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am?

28 And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets.

29 And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.

Pray and ponder the accounts of the 4 Gosples and the Doc & Cov

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?type=words&last=Elias+transformed&help=&wo=checked&search=Elias&do=Search&iw=scriptures&tx=checked&af=checked&hw=checked&sw=checked


214 posted on 02/22/2009 9:15:21 PM PST by restornu
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To: svcw; restornu

Resty hasnt provided Bible scripture on restore, restoring, restoration of the Church ????

That’s cause there is none...

Oh, how embarassing for Resty...

ya see...

Jesus wasnt careless...He never lost His church

Jeus never let His Church go anyrway...

NEVER...

:)


215 posted on 02/22/2009 9:16:07 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Remember John the Baptist was beheaded by King Herod
___________________________________________

Remember JESUS said john ther Baptist was Elijah...

AGAIN...

Elijah came back...this was fulfilled in John the Baptist...

Jesus talking about John the Baptist...

But I tell you that Elijah has already come, yet people did not recognize him and treated him just as they pleased. In the same way, the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” Matthew 17:12

But I tell you that Elijah has come, yet people treated him just as they pleased, as it is written about him.” Mark 9:13


216 posted on 02/22/2009 9:19:11 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

No. you ponder this
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Jesus didnt lie...

Joey Smith did...


217 posted on 02/22/2009 9:20:37 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

You are reading that wrong they are two different beings!


218 posted on 02/22/2009 9:22:34 PM PST by restornu
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To: Tennessee Nana

are you sevenbak or arrowhead?

I was speaking to them we do have minds of our own if you don’t mind!


219 posted on 02/22/2009 9:25:36 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

See post #78.


220 posted on 02/22/2009 9:28:02 PM PST by svcw (This maybe my last transmission - God have mercy on us.)
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