Posted on 02/22/2009 7:00:41 AM PST by greyfoxx39
Edited on 02/22/2009 8:24:57 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
There you go again: trying to use FACTS to prove your point...
Or the brain-dead...
Well THAT don't work very well!
We've SEEN the results of YOUR ping list RSVP!
You have GOT to be kidding!!
How can you SAY that; Resty?
You, of all people: a member of the LDS Organization® that can't even produce what goes on in their SECRET Temple Rites® in ANY of their Scripture, Standard Works, or the SLC PHONE BOOK!
HALF-truth time; Resty??
10. And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11. And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12. But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
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2. right click mouse
3. scroll to bottom of menu, clicking on PROPERTIES
4. notice name of creature in URL address.
Thank ME not; for I merely posted the two links I found in 7's reply.
Well, well, welll.....a mormon tells a "half-truth"....seems like I've heard that term before!
I'm FOR occupying more real estate. ;)
Or at the worst, anti mormonISM, which is not the same thing as being anti mormon.
One term implicitly suggests the notion of being against ALL mormons, as well as their church and its teachings, while the other terms clearly is directed as being against the doctrine and teachings.
On open threads such as this, it would seem to allow the non-mormon adherents the latitude to label their mormon detractors “Anti Christians” or if they cared about more accurate use of terms than the mormons, properly, “Anti Christianity” since no branch of mainstream Christianity considers, or is willing to accept mormonism as Christianity (because it is, in fact, not!).
A.A.C.
Note:
(1) These guys call Christians "Pharisees" on this Web site.
(2) They claim that Jesus is "inclusionary" and Christians tend to be "exclusionary" -- without hardly bothering to mention that LDS consider their church to be the only true church on earth and that everyone else are "apostates."
(3) And, note this on their Web site under "Social Issues":
Instances Where Medical Abortion is Acceptable From the earlier statement, there are exceptionally rare concessions for medically assisted abortions under the following circumstances:
Pregnancy has resulted from incest or rape
Response: (Hey, men committing incest cover up their crimes via abortions! "Way to go" LDS for reinforcing this!)
The life or health of the woman is in jeopardy in the opinion of competent medical authority
Response: (#1, 90% of all abortions aren't done by "competent medical authorities" -- but they don't bother to define which pro-abortion medical authorities are or are not "competent"...also, oh, sure "health" can mean anything...so, just dismember the healthy baby if mom is under the weather, eh?)
The fetus is known, by competent medical authority, to have severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth. Even when one of these conditions exists, a medically assisted abortion should only be considered after consultation has taken place between the pregnant woman and the bishop, and there is divine confirmation given through prayer that an abortion is necessary.
Response: (Oh sure, now prayer is introduced as yet another weapon in the war on the pre-born..."way to go" LDS for "spiritualizing" mass murder!)
Unfortunately liberties may be taken in interpreting the health of the mother, especially by clinical experts;
Response: (Nah, really? You set up filters-from-hell as to when to approve an abortion and gee, whiz, it easily opens the door to "liberties")
...however, a three-step process (a filter if you will), provides adequate protection against "rationalization." The process provides a clinical check, ecclesiastical check, and then an individual check—the last two being driven almost entirely by prayer and the inspiration of the Holy Ghost.
Response: (Oh, now we can rest secure: The "clinical check" in most cases -- 90% -- = the abortionist him/herself -- and we all know that full-time abortionists hardly ever recommend abortions...The "ecclesiastical check" is already on record that it's OK for an incest-perp stepdad to take his minor-stepdaughter in for an abortion...it's OK for a healthy baby to be slaughtered...and this is supposed to masquerade as a "check?"...and then on top of that, these people have the utter gall to claim that the Holy Ghost may "inspire" both the "individual" and ecclesiastical officials to say to an abortion-minded mom, "go for it?"
HALF-truth time; Resty??
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Really
Not all of Christendom is as ignorant as this group many know that Elijah never died and will appear again to prepare the way for the second comming!
from an Trinity Chirstian site.
Yet another reason for this theory is that when Elijah comes back, it is believed that he must die so that he can be judged by God (Hebrews 9:27).
It is argued that since Elijah never died, he will have to return to the natural realm and suffer death to fulfill Hebrews 9:27 which says, “It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.”
Since Elijah’s physical body was taken up into heaven, having never seen death (2 Kings 2:9-12), he must come back to earth and die. Since the two witnesses are shown to have been killed and then resurrected (Revelation 11:7-12), it seems like this would be the perfect place for the fulfillment of Scripture: Elijah would have come again, and he would finally see death so that he might be judged.3
The weakness of this last argument is found in the fact that multitudes of saints will be glorified at the coming of the Lord, never to see death (1 Corinthians 15:51-55; 1Thessalonians 4:14-18), and yet they will be judged at the judgment seat of Christ. While judgment necessarily follows death, death is not necessary for judgment.
We see, then, that Elijah, and not John the Baptist is the one to come again. Elijah’s coming has not yet occurred, but is yet to take place during the tribulation period.
http://www.apostolic.net/biblicalstudies/elijahcome.htm
We all know how much "training" mormon bishops have in counseling, right? So, an untrained layman, with no knowledge of the psychological effects to a woman (or her husband) of having an abortion, is going to seek "divine confirmation given through prayer that an abortion is necessary"...in other words, divine instructions to kill that baby.
No worries...in mormon belief, there are lots of little "spirit babies" in the "premortal life" just waiting to take the place of the murdered one.
You can see where Mitt ( Romney was a leader in the Mormon church while living in Belmont, Mass. He was bishop of the Cambridge congregation, then bishop of Belmont, and in 1986 became president of the Boston-area "stake," similar to a diocese.) got his views on abortion...one wonders how many abortions took place in his ward after his seeking of "divine confirmation".
***I have always noticed that for some reason if they (cults) get the Trinity wrong they also are big into works. ***
“Look here sir! There are hundreds of religions in this country, and the followers of some think theirs is the only right one. How can poor, plain men like us find out what really is the truth?”
We generally reply something like this. “Hundreds of religions you say? That is strange; I’ve heard of only two.”
“Oh, but surely you know there are more than that?”
“Not at all, sir, I find, I admit, many shades of differences in the opinions of those compromising the two great schools; but after all there are but two. The one covers all who expect salvation by DOING; the other, all who have been saved BY SOMETHING DONE. So you see the question is very simple. Can you save yourself, or must you be saved by another? If you can be your own saviour, you do not need to listen. If you cannot, you may well want to learn about Jesus Christ and the message of the cross.
-Modified from H.A. Ironside
***There is NO mention in this article that the website is maintained by and dedicated to mormon beliefs...in fact it is carefully worded to AVOID those facts. ***
Several years ago a friend of mine was looking on the internet for a graph of of the history of the Old Testament and New testament kings. He found a very interesting one, great printing, colors, and testimonials from various Christian bible teachers as to how the graph was good for Sunday School use. along with it was an simple address to order them.
He looked at several other web sites and, BEHOLD! There was the SAME graph, from a MORMON printing house, with the same address to order from, but now listed as a LDS publication.
One now has to be very careful of just about anything of a religious nature found on the internet due to the infiltration of the LDS chamelion.
***They aren’t hiding their connections to the mormon church, and a few seconds glancing over the listings under the heading “Doctrinal Study” tells the tale....”Premortal Existence”, “Eternal Families”, “Godhead/Trinity”.***
They even stole the dove and the fish symbol of the Christians! What gall!
Imagine. Making God out to be a before-the-act accomplice to murder.
***Romney announced in a radio interview in Iowa, that Jesus was coming back to Missouri***
My second and last time I was at a Mormon Church 35 years ago the teacher in the class said that when Jesus returned to set up his kingdom they would all be taken back to Jackson county, Missouri.
And why not? All he did was give “blood atonement” to some sinful college girls for their sins!
(I can't believe I posted that!)
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