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To: Zionist Conspirator

You wrote:

“Your co-religionists don’t seem to agree with you. Before you condemn me, why don’t you take it up with them?”

Now you’re just not being honest again. You wrote:

“Well, you know us rednecks ain’t smart enough to belong to a church that knows that the existence of the universe is a purely natural phenomenon!”

I have yet to see a single faithful Catholic - and there are several in this thread right now - who believes the Catholic Church teaches or believes “that the existence of the universe is a purely natural phenomenon!”

I think you know this to be the case. Why do you say this then? Has any faithful Catholic in this thread (or any FR thread) EVER said here that they believe the Church teaches or believes “that the existence of the universe is a purely natural phenomenon!”

Time to put up or put down the one trick pony, Zionist Conspirator. Show us where the Church teaches or believes “that the existence of the universe is a purely natural phenomenon” or simply be man enough to admit that you made a rash and dishonest statement.


50 posted on 02/12/2009 5:23:36 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998; Zionist Conspirator
Each of you has accused the other of dishonesty. That term implies an intent to deceive. It is a form of "making it personal." Don't let this thread become "about" individual Freepers.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

59 posted on 02/12/2009 9:13:57 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: vladimir998; Zionist Conspirator
I have yet to see a single faithful Catholic - and there are several in this thread right now - who believes the Catholic Church teaches or believes "that the existence of the universe is a purely natural phenomenon!"

The Catechism, in paragraphs 279 through 299, says over and over again that God created all things ... "freely" ... "out of nothing" ... "in and by the eternal Word" ... "through his wisdom".

I'm not even sure what a "purely natural phenomenon" is, to a Catholic, since God upholds and sustains all things, even the "purely natural" ones, at all times.

61 posted on 02/12/2009 10:32:35 PM PST by Campion
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