Posted on 02/11/2009 9:36:09 AM PST by NYer
Bishop Richard Williamson's denial of the Holocaust has done serious damage to the Catholic Church. In an e-mail and fax exchange with SPIEGEL, the ultra-conservative bishop says that he is willing to "review the historical evidence."
SPIEGEL: The Vatican is demanding that you retract your denial of the Holocaust, and it is threatening to not allow you to resume your activities as a bishop. How will you react?
Williamson: Throughout my life, I have always sought the truth. That is why I converted to Catholicism and became a priest. And now I can only say something, the truth of which I am convinced. Because I realize that there are many honest and intelligent people who think differently, I must now review the historical evidence once again. I said the same thing in my interview with Swedish television: Historical evidence is at issue, not emotions. And if I find this evidence, I will correct myself. But that will take time.
SPIEGEL: How can an educated Catholic deny the Holocaust?
Williamson: I addressed the subject in the 1980s. I had read various writings at the time. I cited the Leuchter report (eds. note: a debunked theory produced in the 1980s claiming erroneously that the Nazi gas chambers were technically impractical) in the interview, and it seemed plausible to me. Now I am told that it has been scientifically refuted. I plan now to look into it.
SPIEGEL: You could travel to Auschwitz yourself.
Williamson: No, I will not travel to Auschwitz. I've ordered the book by Jean-Claude Pressac. It's called "Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers." A printout is now being sent to me, and I will read it and study it.
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So, they are two beliefs; and your view remains: replacement of Jewish beliefs with Christian beliefs.
and there is the syncretism of the Roman church. There has always been a remnant of Jews who have accepted Yah'shua.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
I think the phrase "you think you know somebody" means more to me now than any time in my life.
I want to thank you for these supporting data.
Yes, and if they believe Jesus is the Messiah and God, they are called Christians - no longer Jews.
Sent off to work, huh?
You have outed yourself.
You are one denying mass atrocities on this thread, pal.
Another lie.
Romans 11:28 "As far as the gospel is concerned, they (the Jews) are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs." Historically, it was a period in which the minority, Jewish followers of Jesus, found some significant harassment from mainline Judaism (such as it was). Thus, the term "enemies," which must be read in context. Context, context, context.
Yes, and if they believe Jesus is the Messiah and God, they are called Christians - no longer Jews.
Yours ? ,the people of Tarsus ? or the syncretic church started by Constantine at Nicea ? A Jew who has accepted Yah'shua as their Messiah As they follow the Jewish Messiah. On whose say so :
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
calls themselves Messianic.
“they were arrested for political reasons, by and large, and then sent off to work.”
Your 68.
None of my posts “deny mass atrocities.”
But for a "christian" who hates Jews, they twist and torture scripture. An "illuminated" reading of Romans 11 will prove otherwise. SSPX Bishop Richard Williamson and his ilk twist scripture to supportAmen to reading scriptures in context !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
their hatred for all Jews including the Jewish Messiah.
So you retract your posts that appear to do so, or would you need more study?
I retract nothing, I have said nothing denies any atrocities.
I won't wait for your retraction or the apology you owe me, as I doubt it is forthcoming.
Go on defending Holocaust deniers if you want, but don't drag me into your gutter with you.
Jews. And Christians. It's what each believes that makes one not the other. It is what they call those who believe as they do about Jesus and the messiah. J
A Jew who has accepted Yah'shua as their Messiah calls themselves Messianic.
On whose say so? Yours?
When you teach it in an Orthodox Synagogue, maybe. Until then, Jews say what Jews are and are not, not you.
You are, of course, free to create whatever religion you wish and call yourself whatever you wish.
You are not free however to define Judaism and Christianity, only your own religion.
I am offering you Christian charity of the kind you would not extend to Williamson. What you do with it is on your conscience.
Lying about my words...
...of the kind you would not extend to Williamson.
...and reading my mind?
That's not Christian charity, but something rather different, and I rebuke it.
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