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'I Will Not Travel to Auschwitz' (Interview with SSPX Bishop Richard Williamson)
Der Spiegel ^ | February 9, 2009

Posted on 02/11/2009 9:36:09 AM PST by NYer

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To: D-fendr
It was Judaism then and now that rejected Paul’s teaching. Judaism did not “become” Christian.

So, they are two beliefs; and your view remains: replacement of Jewish beliefs with Christian beliefs.

There has always been a remnant of Jews who have accepted Yah'shua.

and there is the syncretism of the Roman church.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
101 posted on 02/11/2009 8:09:50 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: annalex
I think the Pope should resign now.

I think the phrase "you think you know somebody" means more to me now than any time in my life.

102 posted on 02/11/2009 8:18:11 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: flaglady47

I want to thank you for these supporting data.


103 posted on 02/11/2009 8:20:41 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: XeniaSt
There has always been a remnant of Jews who have accepted Yah'shua.

Yes, and if they believe Jesus is the Messiah and God, they are called Christians - no longer Jews.

104 posted on 02/11/2009 9:14:14 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Petronski

Sent off to work, huh?


105 posted on 02/11/2009 9:14:57 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

You have outed yourself.


106 posted on 02/11/2009 9:29:25 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski

You are one denying mass atrocities on this thread, pal.


107 posted on 02/11/2009 9:50:59 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
You are one denying mass atrocities on this thread, pal.

Another lie.

108 posted on 02/12/2009 6:58:44 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: XeniaSt
Probably from here inthe NIV:

Romans 11:28 "As far as the gospel is concerned, they (the Jews) are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs." Historically, it was a period in which the minority, Jewish followers of Jesus, found some significant harassment from mainline Judaism (such as it was). Thus, the term "enemies," which must be read in context. Context, context, context.

109 posted on 02/12/2009 7:29:17 AM PST by cookcounty (President Barack Hoover Obama needs a few history lessons.)
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To: D-fendr
XS>There has always been a remnant of Jews who have accepted Yah'shua.

Yes, and if they believe Jesus is the Messiah and God, they are called Christians - no longer Jews.

On whose say so :

Yours ?

,the people of Tarsus ?

or the syncretic church started by Constantine at Nicea ?

A Jew who has accepted Yah'shua as their Messiah
calls themselves Messianic.

As they follow the Jewish Messiah.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
110 posted on 02/12/2009 7:36:26 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Petronski

“they were arrested for political reasons, by and large, and then sent off to work.”

Your 68.


111 posted on 02/12/2009 7:37:18 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

None of my posts “deny mass atrocities.”


112 posted on 02/12/2009 7:39:02 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: cookcounty
Romans 11:28 "As far as the gospel is concerned, they (the Jews) are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs." Historically, it was a period in which the minority, Jewish followers of Jesus, found some significant harassment from mainline Judaism (such as it was). Thus, the term "enemies," which must be read in context. Context, context, context.

Amen to reading scriptures in context !

But for a "christian" who hates Jews, they twist and torture scripture.

An "illuminated" reading of Romans 11 will prove otherwise.

SSPX Bishop Richard Williamson and his ilk twist scripture to support
their hatred for all Jews including the Jewish Messiah.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
113 posted on 02/12/2009 7:47:50 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Petronski

So you retract your posts that appear to do so, or would you need more study?


114 posted on 02/12/2009 7:56:36 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
So you retract your posts that appear to do so...

I retract nothing, I have said nothing denies any atrocities.

I won't wait for your retraction or the apology you owe me, as I doubt it is forthcoming.

Go on defending Holocaust deniers if you want, but don't drag me into your gutter with you.

115 posted on 02/12/2009 7:59:50 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski
I have said nothing that denies any atrocities.
116 posted on 02/12/2009 8:00:32 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: XeniaSt
On whose say so :

Jews. And Christians. It's what each believes that makes one not the other. It is what they call those who believe as they do about Jesus and the messiah. J

A Jew who has accepted Yah'shua as their Messiah calls themselves Messianic.

On whose say so? Yours?

When you teach it in an Orthodox Synagogue, maybe. Until then, Jews say what Jews are and are not, not you.

117 posted on 02/12/2009 8:15:55 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: XeniaSt

You are, of course, free to create whatever religion you wish and call yourself whatever you wish.

You are not free however to define Judaism and Christianity, only your own religion.


118 posted on 02/12/2009 8:18:18 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Petronski

I am offering you Christian charity of the kind you would not extend to Williamson. What you do with it is on your conscience.


119 posted on 02/12/2009 8:20:14 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
I am offering you Christian charity...

Lying about my words...

...of the kind you would not extend to Williamson.

...and reading my mind?

That's not Christian charity, but something rather different, and I rebuke it.

120 posted on 02/12/2009 8:22:58 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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