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Waddoups wants scanners, database in restaurants (state database of drinkers)
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 2/3/2009 | Robert Gehrke

Posted on 02/03/2009 8:38:31 AM PST by frankenMonkey

A proposal to scan the driver licenses of bar patrons and keep it on file in a state law enforcement database is a good start, says Senate President Michael Waddoups, but he wants to see the program go further. Waddoups, R-Taylorsville, says he wants to see the database idea start with private clubs, but extend to restaurants that serve diners beer and liquor.

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KEYWORDS: carrienation; lds; mormon; prohibition; taliban; utah
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For those of you whom consider Utah a bastion of conservatism, a distinction between moral conservatism and constitutional conservatism may be in order... Enjoy!
1 posted on 02/03/2009 8:38:31 AM PST by frankenMonkey
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To: frankenMonkey

“Waddoups, R-Taylorsville”

With Republicans like this clown, why do we need Democrats?


2 posted on 02/03/2009 8:40:04 AM PST by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: frankenMonkey

Wow, that’s a disgusting waste of tax money to intrude into people’s lives.

Full disclosure, I took a recent test and discovered I am all the way conservative, but about 3/4 of the way down to “non-authoritarian.”

Not quite a libertarian, but closer to libertarian than, say, nannystaters like this guy or Huckabee.


3 posted on 02/03/2009 8:40:58 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: frankenMonkey

Proof positive stupid and intrusive are not a wholly owned commodities of Democrats ...


4 posted on 02/03/2009 8:41:34 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: frankenMonkey

Spent 4 years out there on a corporate transfer. Alcohol regulations were awfully funny then. It appears they haven’t advanced much, if any, over the following decades.


5 posted on 02/03/2009 8:42:16 AM PST by bcsco (Illinois politicians should be read their Miranda rights when sworn in to office...)
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To: frankenMonkey
a distinction between moral conservatism and constitutional conservatism may be in order...

Some people should be reminded of that often.

6 posted on 02/03/2009 8:42:38 AM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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Why do they want this info? What do they plan to do with it?


7 posted on 02/03/2009 8:43:54 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: frankenMonkey

666


8 posted on 02/03/2009 8:45:29 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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From the article:

“He would store the information in a central database that law enforcement could access for accident investigations or in the event of a traffic stop.”

“In a restaurant, if they’re serving alcohol, the person ordering the alcohol should show the ID,” said Waddoups, who was receiving a demonstration of the license scanners after the Legislature’s budget meeting Friday. “At some point, the restaurant would feed [the information] into the central database.”

“That way, he said, if the restaurant patron left the restaurant and went to a bar, the bartender could know the customer may have already been drinking and might need to be watched more closely.”


9 posted on 02/03/2009 8:46:47 AM PST by frankenMonkey
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To: caver

A database of persons who go to a bar... A Republican suggesting this...

THEY’RE DRIVING ME TO DRINK.


10 posted on 02/03/2009 8:55:14 AM PST by Made In The USA (Liberalism is a sign of stupidity.)
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Way to kill two businesses with one stupid law. Restaurant owners and bar owners should be all over this.


11 posted on 02/03/2009 8:55:26 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: frankenMonkey
Nothing like setting a precedent to require gun registration. If you have to register to have a drink then why not make you register your guns, too?

This asshat needs to be turned out of office. With friends like him we don't need enemies.

12 posted on 02/03/2009 8:55:29 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: frankenMonkey
a distinction between moral conservatism and constitutional conservatism may be in order...

Actually, there may well be another factor at work besides moral conservatism.

13 posted on 02/03/2009 8:55:58 AM PST by bcsco (Illinois politicians should be read their Miranda rights when sworn in to office...)
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Good Grief. What happened to individual responsibility. This may “sound good” to some and apparently to this Legislator, BUT, once there’s the Data Base and some drinker uses a false ID or else brings his own alcohol that he adds to his drink when no one is watching, and then is “allowed” to leave the restaurant/bar and drive home and then causes a vehicular death of some innocent person, WHO will get SUED by the family of the innocent person?

The Legislator who thought up this “bright” idea? The Bar/Restaurant?

Nanny State . . . when do I get up? What do I eat for breakfast? When can I have my first beer? How many cocktails can I have with lunch and still drive back to the office? Is an afternoon drink before driving home okay? May I have a nightcap before I go to bed?

COME ON PEOPLE. D@mn it. Each person should be responsible for his own actions. We’re getting mixed signals from everyone in authority. “It’s not your fault, you had a bad upbringing.” “It’s not your fault, your parents didn’t validate you.” “You have the right to remain silent. . . .”

Once a person is 7 years old, if not before, that person KNOWS what will get him in trouble and what won’t. If he decides to live by “what won’t” he’ll have a successful life. If he doesn’t, he is responsible for the consequences. Not his parents, not his teachers, not the waitress or the bartender or the owner of the restaurant.

D@mn, I am SO tired of “Big Brother” and “Nanny State.” Tired, I tell you.


14 posted on 02/03/2009 8:55:59 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Social justice cannot be attained by violence. Violence kills what it intends to create. JPII)
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To: frankenMonkey

Bar codes on shot glasses, combined with scanning the Drivers license of the purchaser.

Why not just put a spending limit on each bar parton if the intent is to make the roads “safe”.

I don’t want my drinking pleasures to go to any database other than my own brain! LOL


15 posted on 02/03/2009 8:57:07 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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16 posted on 02/03/2009 8:57:39 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: frankenMonkey
Yeah right. I'm not a drinker and have serious issues with people that drive drunk but this is such an invasion of privacy that could result in false arrests and get restaurants sued. Also, I bet insurance companies would love this data. I suggest trying it in DC first.
17 posted on 02/03/2009 8:58:26 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: HighlyOpinionated
D@mn, I am SO tired of “Big Brother” and “Nanny State.” Tired, I tell you.

These people are just BEGGING to get their teeth knoecked out!

PATHETIC BUNCH OF SCUMBAG TRAITORS!

18 posted on 02/03/2009 8:59:34 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: frankenMonkey

There are some pretty funny comments from people who aren’t too happy with this “Republican.”


19 posted on 02/03/2009 9:01:30 AM PST by goldi
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To: Made In The USA

“THEY’RE DRIVING ME TO DRINK.”

Just don’t drink and drive!


20 posted on 02/03/2009 9:02:04 AM PST by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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