Anti-Mormon: The Mormon N-Word (Open)

Mormonism Research Ministry ^ | Bill McKeever

[Godzilla]

Who said the son of god is a god? The son of god would be the most important messenger of god(assuming there was only one literal son of god). How would that make him a god?

Ah! We see already the disconnect and how what I said applies. Since the topic is generally mormonism, it teaches that Jesus is a separate God from the Father, who has another God as father over him into infinity.

However, from the context of you post, you seem to imply that Jesus was something less than a god - a demigod. Sounds like something out of Greek mythology - and that doesn't sound like what is found in the bible.

[Religion Moderator]

Do not use potty language or references to potty language on the Religion Forum. And do not “make it personal.”

[NoRedTape]

"Who said the son of god is a god? The son of god would be the most important messenger of god(assuming there was only one literal son of god). How would that make him a god?"

--- (scratchin' my head) Huh? Read about the Trinity some time. Jesus is God. There is one God.

BTW....... Here are some good questions for mormons.....

And....I am not "anti-mormon". Just sayin'.

[mamelukesabre]

Thanks. I’m glad you’re looking over my shoulder to keep me on the straight and narrow. And you are so quick at it too.

Like I said...

Moses parted the sea, does that make him a god?

[fproy2222]

So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?

[fproy2222]

So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?

[fproy2222]

So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?

[fproy2222]

So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?

[fproy2222]

So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?

[Religion Moderator]

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That is not hate mongering. Anti beliefs are not equivalent to hate mongering.

Remember that each time a new belief is spawned from a previous one, both sides tend to condemn the other in the harshest terms they can muster, e.g. heretic, cult, apostate, demonic, anathema, etc. And often those harsh terms become part of their official documents. Clean hands are rare.

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[mysterio]

I’m not a Mormon, but I disagree with this author. While indeed there are people who disagree with Mormon theology and practices, there are also a goodly number who are mentally unhinged about it.

Same here. I'm not Mormon, but those I've met seem to be good people. It's easy enough not to be a Mormon if you disagree with their beliefs.

[fproy2222]

sorry, I seemed to stutter.

My cat wanted attention just as I was hitting the mouse button, batting my hand with her head.

This sounds like “my dog ate my homework” kind of excuse.

again, sorry, I didn't mean to repeat myself so much.

[fproy2222]

Did you pull my reply in post #24 because I used the full word that the term “N-word” really means?

Since the author wants us to feel the connection, I see it as appropriate to use the entire word, instead of just referring to it.

This gives the true meaning to what this author is saying, instead of just pretending that he is being nice.

[Religion Moderator]

Allowing that post to stand would attribute the use of the word to a Freeper, namely you, and could be cherry-picked by those who want FR to look bad (e.g. O’Reilly).

[fproy2222]

Then I will try again.

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` ANTI-MORMON = (N-WORD) `

This author is trying to make you pre-judge the use of one word by making you associate it with a word that you most likely think is bad.

Even though there is no natural association.

Reread the article and see how he wants you to “feel” the wrongness, without giving you much information to investigate.

[Between the Lines]

So, in your opinion, what should we call you folks who misrepresent our beliefs?

a Mormon detractor

[Elsie]

 

I call on every Mormon to bury their own “N-word,” once and for all.

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"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.

 

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Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

  2 Nephi 5: 21    'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

  Alma 3: 6    'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

 

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August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)

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 1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."

 

 

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We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.

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Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).

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When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."

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When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)

 

 

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(From --->  http://www.i4m.com/think/comments/mormon-racism.htm )

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Does ANYONE think that if it's Romney running in 2012; these HISTORY FACTS will stay HIDDEN???

[Elsie]

While indeed there are people who disagree with Mormon theology and practices, there are also a goodly number who are mentally unhinged about it.

And YOU know who you are!!