How deeply embedded is this false notion?
I can’t imagine what the Pope was thinking when he deciding to start embracing this band of nutcases. And I don’t want to hear about how it’s just a few atypical wackos within SSPX who are spouting this crap. If the SSPX leadership didn’t sympathize with their views, they’d be promptly expelled from the organization when they spout this crap.
Who will rid us....
Yeah, that’s pretty darn bad.
This comes so fast after that rehabilitation, if Benedict doesn’t say something about this, it looks like he is totally fine with it
“people who hold revisionist views on the Holocaust are not anti-Semites”
Yikes.
Regarding 'deicide' - I suppose we are all guilty of that one. Christ came to save the lost and HE died for sinners. We are ALL sinners, and by HIS righteous blood we are washed clean ('whose blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel' -- namely grace and mercy).
If one weren't a sinner he could claim innocence -- but that's a null set...
GAG!
This gentleman talks as if nobody other than Jews would be capable of crucifying Christ.
If I may be so bold, I would suggest that Fr. Abrahamowicz would be fully as capable of doing so, and probably for the same sorts of reasons.
And, for that matter, I can think of situations where most of the rest of us Christians might do so as well.
The Crucifixion was a result of mankind's sinfulness, and was not simply due to the actions of the members of a particular religion. In our various sinful ways, we all crucify Christ, every day.
This priest does not sound like someone who accepts the teaching of Nostra Aetate on the rejection of “collective guilt” of Jews. The Magisterium has stated in one of the most authoritative ways (a decree of an Ecumenical Council approved by the Pope) that collective guilt is to be rejected, so Catholics should follow this teaching, regardless of what some theologians in the history of the Church may have said in the past.
The piles of murdered Jews were photographed; the photos survived. Apparently Satan has clouded the eyes of the Holocaust deniers of any stripe.
True, the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ;(13) still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ.
Furthermore, in her rejection of every persecution against any man, the Church, mindful of the patrimony she shares with the Jews and moved not by political reasons but by the Gospel's spiritual love, decries hatred, persecutions, displays of anti-Semitism, directed against Jews at any time and by anyone.
Besides, as the Church has always held and holds now, Christ underwent His passion and death freely, because of the sins of men and out of infinite love, in order that all may reach salvation. It is, therefore, the burden of the Church's preaching to proclaim the cross of Christ as the sign of God's all-embracing love and as the fountain from which every grace flows.
Wow! This is awful. I had no idea the SSPX gang were that far off the wall.
This is a huge mistake to allow this blasphemy to continue in the Church. This is not just a minor difference of opinion. It is a foundational principle of Christianity that Jesus SACRIFICED His life for us. To deny this is to deny His Deity.
Jesus was born a Jew, lived as an observant Jew, and died a Jew. He came for the Jew first, and THEN the Gentile. The Jews, with all their faults, warts and boils, are God's people. God chose them to reveal Himself to man. You persecute Jews at your own peril. God can deal with Israel they way He chooses without our help. Our treatment of Jews is on OUR heads.
The Bible clearly states we were "adopted in" to God's family. That means we ARE Jewish now as Christians. The Bible says we are "perfected" Jews. When a Jew becomes a believer, they are perfected. We were grafted into this family, not the other way around.
This "Jews killed Jesus" philosophy MUST be cut from the Church. It is cancer, error, and blasphemy. If you hate the Jews, you hate your family, and what's worse, you hate God's family. You hate yourself.
If the pope doesn't nip this in the bud RIGHT NOW, you will see a schism form very quickly. It isn't a small matter. This is a HUGE mistake.
Ah, homeboy.
I have seen, and discussed, a range of opinions among those largely sympathetic to the SSPX (on a forum that is now defunct).
It seems that there is a significant minority that is primarily motivated by opposition to Vatican II ecclesiology. Of these, there is a smaller minority that is specifically upset by the rapprochement with the Jews. I would expect that these groups will not be satisfied by the lifting of the excommunications and by the reaffirmation of the Latin Mass as valid mass. They would want Vatican II reversed pretty much in toto. They, of course, have reasons to fear a reconciliation that is now taking shape, and they can be expected to attempt to wreck it.
These people know that the most effective way to cause scandal is to insult the Jewish interests, as the Jewish people tend to respond quickly, loudly, and bitterly to any Holocaust revisionism, as of course they are entitled to do. Further, some of the Jewish response would contain conscious or inconscious anti-Christianism if I may coin the term. That would ignite a bitter mainstream Catholic response, and the stock of the abovementioned SSPX minority will rise.
So that is the stratagem. Responsible Catholics and Jews should see it for what it is and try to lower the temperature. There will be no winners if this escalates.
The majority of SSPX are simply good honest traditionalists. They may dislike the Vatican II’s liberal spirit but they will work within the Church to fix it, as we all should. Jews have nothing to fear from them.
Holy smokes.
The world is gearing up the showers and ovens for another go-round, isn’t it?
Would someone please clarify this for me? Who are the Sedevacantists, the SSPX or the SSPV?
Bookmarked.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach AdonaiLuke 17:3 "..... If your brother sins, rebuke him;If he does not repent; rebuke him again.
and if he repents, forgive him"
Is Fr. Floriano Abrahamowicz too stupid to realize that he just called himself a Christ-killer? His name is clear evidence of recent Jewish ancestry. Blood is on his hands if it is on mine.