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To: dangus
"Wow, I can’t find the term, “sola scriptura” in the bible either. Which, by your reasoning, demonstrates that your reasoing is foolish."

There is a reason that the term "sola scriptura" can not be found in the Bible.

Lots of stuff cannot be found in the Bible.

Infant Baptism. I cannot find it.

Trinity. I cannot find it.

Transubstantiation? I cannot find it.

Purgatory? I cannot find it.

I could go on ad infinitum!

I'll give you a clue......to what is going on.....Clearly the letters to the seven Churches which are in Asia is currently beyond your willingness to consider....

My "reasoing" as you put it, is based on a lifetime of actually paying attention to what is being said in congregation by honest folk.

I have no grievances with the Churches of Sardis, Smyrna, Laodicea, et al.

I appreciate the metaphors and the messages. I doubt that you have yet seriously considered the whole of it all.

There is still time.

119 posted on 01/27/2009 7:44:19 PM PST by Radix (There are 2 kinds of people in this world. Those with loaded guns & those who dig. You dig.)
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To: Radix

>> There is a reason that the term “sola scriptura” can not be found in the Bible. Lots of stuff cannot be found in the Bible. <<

True, but none of the other terms negate themselves by not being found in the bible. However...

>> Infant Baptism. I cannot find it. <<

What you need to find is any biblical assertion that infants are excluded from baptism. Entire households are baptized. Given extended families and servants and servants’ families, it’s virtually inconcevable that a household would include no children.

>> Trinity. I cannot find it. <<

Is Christ not God? Is the Father not God? Is the Holy Spirit not God? Is God not one?

See, all these terms are simply shorthand names for doctrines which are in the bible. “Sola scriptura” isn’t just a name; it’s the doctrine itself. Call it whatever you want, the doctrine is not in the bible.

Now, transubstantiation means that the bread and wine are changed into the body and blood of Christ. The bible says that it is. You and I could debate whether or not such passages are meant to be taken literally, but however we interpret the meaning of the bible, but you can’t say the bible doesn’t say that.

But nowhere does the bible even approach saying something like “sola scriptura.” It says all scripture is beneficial, but it does not say that only scripture is beneficial. Quite the opposite, it instructs us to keep every instruction we have receievdm whether weitten or spoken. It says to disregard the taditions of men, but it does not assert that all traditions are merely those of men, nor does it define “tradition” as meaning doctrines passed down verbally.

>> Clearly the letters to the seven Churches which are in Asia is currently beyond your willingness to consider....
My “reasoing” as you put it, is based on a lifetime of actually paying attention to what is being said in congregation by honest folk. I have no grievances with the Churches of Sardis, Smyrna, Laodicea, et al. I appreciate the metaphors and the messages. I doubt that you have yet seriously considered the whole of it all.
<<

What prepostrous arrogance! Why not just write, “since you disagree with me, clearly you are a drooling moron incapable of comprehension!” You don’t even bother to assert where anything I’ve written contradicts the passages addressed to those churches!


122 posted on 01/27/2009 11:52:13 PM PST by dangus
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