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Benedict XVI and the Church’s Early Steps
CatholicExchange.com ^ | January 23, 2009 | Matthew Warner

Posted on 01/23/2009 11:46:25 PM PST by Salvation

Benedict XVI and the Church’s Early Steps

January 23rd, 2009 by Matthew Warner

Recently, I decided to read and review a series of books by Pope Benedict XVI that just seemed like they should all go together. I started with Jesus of Nazareth, followed by The Apostles, and now his book on The Fathers. Together they paint an amazing picture of the springing forth of Christianity in history.

Jesus is of course the source and at the center of it all. In the Apostles we find the manifestation of the Church. And now in studying the Fathers (the early Church fathers, that is) we see the Church’s first steps as it begins its journey through history.

books.jpgI must say, of these three books, I enjoyed this one the most. The others were wonderful, and present essential information for even beginning to understand the context of The Church Fathers. Of course in comparison the Apostles would be regarded as more important, and Jesus as most and, ultimately, as solely important. But the Fathers are closer to us — closer in that it is only through them first that we are connected to the Apostles and ultimately to Jesus. It is atop their shoulders that we stand for much of what we are able to understand today. And these shoulders belong to giants.

Further, the Apostles were — respectfully — ordinary men. They were really just regular kind of guys, most of them fishermen.  And it is important and significant that God would choose such ordinary men as a foundation for His Church. What God teaches through them is, indeed, the foundation of our Faith. But the Fathers of the Church are very interesting as well as they stand out in history as some of the wisest men who ever lived.

From Clement to Cyril, Ambrose to Ignatius, Jerome to Gregory, Origen to Augustine and many more, we meet each of them in this book. We hear about their lives, how they lived, what they faced, and how they each uniquely shaped Christianity and the world. These men represent some of the earliest popes, bishops and theologians of the Church and that time in human history. They learned from the Apostles. They studied with disciples of the Apostles.

If we want to understand more of what the writers of scripture meant when writing a particular passage, one way is to study their students — and the students of those students. These are the Church Fathers.

If we want to know the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles that were not explicitly written and captured in the Bible (the Bible was never intended to be a catch-all for the teachings of Christ), we must ask the successors of the Apostles. This is Sacred Tradition. And we see it first lived out by the Church Fathers.

The true teaching, therefore, is not that invented by intellectuals, which goes beyond the Church’s simple faith. The true Gospel is the one imparted by the bishops who received it in an uninterrupted line from the Apostles (Pope Benedict XVI, The Fathers).

It is this devotion to and communion with, specifically, the faith passed down from the Apostles that distinguishes true Christianity from schisms. This is what binds us in unity as a universal Church.  St. Iranaeus recognizes this even around the year 200 AD:

The Church, though dispersed throughout the world…having received this faith from the Apostles…carefully preserves it…For the Churches which have been planted in Germany do not believe or hand down anything different, nor do those in Spain, nor do those in Gaul, nor those in the East, nor those in Egypt, nor those in Libya, nor those which have been established in the central regions of the world” (St. Iranaeus).

And it was the Fathers who continued the mission of the Apostles, taking the Faith to all of these regions.  They traveled and brought Christianity to virtually every corner of the known world at that time. From Rome to Hippo, Antioch to Egypt, East to West.

They battled heresies, barbarians, emperors, corruption, and their own temptations. They impacted the world today in more ways than we realize — most especially in theology and philosophy. The book is worth reading just for all of that information.

And the wisdom imparted by these Church Fathers is just as relevant to us today as it was in their time.

When I read St. Augustine’s writings, I do not get the impression that he is a man who died more or less 1,600 years ago; I feel he is like a man of today: a friend, a contemporary who speaks to me, who speaks to us with his fresh and timely faith (Pope Benedict XVI, The Fathers).

Another thing that stood out to me when studying these men is their dedication to Truth. Many today treat Christianity as simply this thing humans made up as some superstition in the past because we could not yet explain things scientifically. They imagine an early Christianity steeped with religious fundamentalists, martyred for their willingness to blindly follow a crazy religion at the expense of rational thought. That shows a total lack of knowledge of history and the early Church.

It is quite the contrary. It was often because Christianity offered a fusing of rational and philosophical thought with faith that was so appealing to these intellectual and spiritual juggernauts.

St. Augustine was a passionate seeker of truth: he was from the beginning and then throughout his life.

Philosophy, especially that of a platonic stamp, led him closer to Christ, revealing to him the existence of the Logos or creative reason. Philosophy books showed him the existence of reason, from which the whole world came, but they could not tell him how to reach this Logos, which seemed so distant. Only by reading St. Paul’s epistles within the faith of the Catholic Church was the truth fully revealed to him (Pope Benedict XVI, The Fathers).

In fact, far from being a religion that looked to deny rational thought, it was the Church that battled against the irrationality of many pagan beliefs in favor of a more reasonable approach found in Christianity:

St. Justin marked the ancient Church’s forceful option for philosophy, for reason, rather than for the religion of the pagans (Pope Benedict XVI, The Fathers).

All that being said, in the end I believe Benedict shares a most profound thought in this book. It occurs on the subject of Tertullian.

Tertullian was one of the great minds of the early Church. And he contributes greatly to our understanding of the Church. Long story short, he believed so much in his own rigid, individualistic positions that his intellectual arrogance inevitably led him away from communion with the Church.

One sees that in the end he lacked the simplicity, the humility, to integrate himself with the Church, to accept his weaknesses, to be forbearing with others and himself.

When one only sees his thought in all its greatness, in the end, it is precisely this greatness that is lost. The essential characteristic of a great theologian is the humility to remain with the Church, to accept his own and others’ weaknesses, because actually only God is all holy. We instead, always need forgiveness (Pope Benedict XVI, The Fathers).

This really resonated with me. We have had countless brilliant minds in our world. Sadly, many have lacked the humility to remain with the Church.

These Fathers of the Church truly stood out not because of their intellect, although many of them were very intellectual, and not for dying for their beliefs, though many were martyrs. They didn’t stand out because of the positions of power they held, though many were powerful.

They stood out for their simple and solid witness to the True Faith. They stand out because their ideas have stood the test of time, being in continuity with the deposit of faith from the beginning, in union with the Apostles, but also in union with our experiential truth we immerse ourselves in everyday… an experience billions have shared since them.

They are historic evidence of an objective Truth, unique not because this Truth was something they themselves created, but because they were humble enough to allow God to illuminate the Truth through them.  And when they found it, instead of claiming it for themselves, they had the humility to simply stand in awe of it.

 

No Christian’s education is complete without learning from the Fathers of the Church. This book is a great introductory resource for doing just that. If you don’t have a copy, you can order one from The Catholic Company.

Matthew Warner is a Catholic blogger, speaker, musician and founder of Fallible Blogma and flockNote.com.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostles; churchfathers; pope; saints
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1 posted on 01/23/2009 11:46:27 PM PST by Salvation
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2 posted on 01/23/2009 11:47:32 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

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3 posted on 01/23/2009 11:47:39 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

How about THREE bookmarks? LOL!


4 posted on 01/24/2009 12:00:51 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

LOL. Hello Salvation. Good one :-).


5 posted on 01/24/2009 12:47:25 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Salvation
If we want to understand more of what the writers of scripture meant when writing a particular passage, one way is to study their students — and the students of those students. These are the Church Fathers.

Another way is to study the scriptures...

2Ti 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

You guys are students of the students...Some of us are students of the scriptures...And there's a very large disconnect between the scriptures and the students of your religion...I'll stick with the scriptures...

If we want to know the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles that were not explicitly written and captured in the Bible (the Bible was never intended to be a catch-all for the teachings of Christ),

The scriptures were directly inspired from God, No??? After Jesus died, the Holy Spirit brought to the Apostles remembrance what was done and said so they could record it, write it down, No???

So what happened??? The Apostles forgot to write it all down??? Or the Holy Spirit decided He didn't want everything in the book, so you guys could claim authority with the 'rest of the truth'???

The true teaching, therefore, is not that invented by intellectuals, which goes beyond the Church’s simple faith. The true Gospel is the one imparted by the bishops who received it in an uninterrupted line from the Apostles

But yet you must be an intellectual to understand it...I guess you must be an intellectual philosopher to understand THAT...

It is quite the contrary. It was often because Christianity offered a fusing of rational and philosophical thought with faith that was so appealing to these intellectual and spiritual juggernauts.

No...Christianity didn't offer that...Your Catholic church only claims that Christianity offers that...

Jesus disagree with your pope and your religion...

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

We are complete in Jesus WITHOUT intellectual philosophy...

Philosophy, especially that of a platonic stamp, led him closer to Christ, revealing to him the existence of the Logos or creative reason.

The Holy Spirit led the Christians that I know closer to Jesus Christ...NOT platonic philosophy...

Philosophy books showed him the existence of reason, from which the whole world came

Augustine had to read a book to find out he had the ability to reason???

Only by reading St. Paul’s epistles within the faith of the Catholic Church was the truth fully revealed to him

It's quite clear the Truth never was fully revealed to Augustine...Augustine should have followed the faith of Jesus Christ instead of the faith of the Catholic church...

In fact, far from being a religion that looked to deny rational thought, it was the Church that battled against the irrationality of many pagan beliefs in favor of a more reasonable approach found in Christianity

In opposition to your religion, Christianity defies rational thought...There's not too much that is rational about a man dying, rising again to life, and then ascending to Heaven...

St. Justin marked the ancient Church’s forceful option for philosophy, for reason, rather than for the religion of the pagans

Forceful option??? It was rational to murder men and their families and burn their scriptures when they wouldn't submit to your philosophy???

They are historic evidence of an objective Truth, unique not because this Truth was something they themselves created, but because they were humble enough to allow God to illuminate the Truth through them. And when they found it, instead of claiming it for themselves, they had the humility to simply stand in awe of it.

The article just stated that they received their truth thru paganistic, platonic philosophy...Maybe God liked pagan philosophy after all, and used it instead of His inspired scripture to reach the masses???

6 posted on 01/24/2009 9:33:04 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

That’s as good an example of the rejection of the Divine gift of reason as one could hope for. In one post you’ve gone a long way toward making the Church’s point.


7 posted on 01/24/2009 2:00:14 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
That’s as good an example of the rejection of the Divine gift of reason as one could hope for. In one post you’ve gone a long way toward making the Church’s point.

Ya know, I've looked at all the gifts handed out by God in the scriptures but I never came across the Divine gift of reason...Perhaps that one of those gifts that comes solely thru your tradition, eh???

Besides, how could it be a Divine gift when Augustine claims this reasoning must come from a Plato inspired philosophy???

8 posted on 01/24/2009 3:40:16 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool; Mad Dawg

Reason??

I would say it is one of the benefits of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.


9 posted on 01/24/2009 8:01:56 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Iscool
I never came across the Divine gift of reason

You don't have to tell us; we've read your posts.

10 posted on 01/24/2009 8:48:09 PM PST by Titanites
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To: Titanites
You don't have to tell us; we've read your posts.

Sarcastic little bugger, aren't you...

11 posted on 01/25/2009 12:21:48 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Salvation
I would say it is one of the benefits of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Reason is not listed as any type of gift in the scriptures...It's part of our nature...

But your esteemed Augustine claims it's something you learn by studying pagan philosophy...And he had to study philosophy to find out he had the ability to reason...

Would seem to me that a Christian would have enough ability to reason that you can't get an understanding of Spiritual things thru a secular education administered by a pagan philosopher...Just sayin'...

12 posted on 01/25/2009 12:30:17 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
Ya know, I've looked at all the gifts handed out by God in the scriptures but I never came across the Divine gift of reason...Perhaps that one of those gifts that comes solely thru your tradition, eh???

Perhaps you could give us all and explanation of the John 1:1. Please include information on the original greek.

13 posted on 01/25/2009 4:56:09 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: Titanites

LOL! “What oft was thought but ne’er so well expressed.” ;-)


14 posted on 01/25/2009 11:33:57 AM PST by maryz
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To: Iscool; Salvation; Titanites; ALPAPilot
Reason is not listed as any type of gift in the scriptures...It's part of our nature...

Where do you find that in Scripture?

But I agree. Reason and will seem to be closely related to the image and likeness of God in which we are made.

But I guess I think of human nature as a Divine gift. I think of creation in general and each part of it all as Divine gifts. That is to say, I think God was not obliged and did not owe us our creation in any particular way. HE gave it all to us and all unmerited.

Besides, how could it be a Divine gift when Augustine claims this reasoning must come from a Plato inspired philosophy???

While reason is a gift, as are, e.g., muscles, nerves, the sense of taste, like many gifts of God to man, we must train in their use. Even the most sensitive palate can be taught to taste more discerningly and with more appreciation. The greatest athletes and piano players, as a rule, practice a good deal to learn and to perfect their gifts.

So it is with reason. The potential to reason does not constitute or guarantee skill or excellence in reason.

So when in one place you refer to "Reason" and in another "this reasoning", I have to shake my head. Yes, the Platonic system, if 'system' it be, is best understood through reading Plato. I'm not sure I'd use, or even understand, the phrase "a Plato inspired philosophy." I've read some Plato and I've read some Plotinus. One can see similarities, and I would even say that they both "set me up" to understand the similar but still critically different Doctrine of the Most Holy Trinity. (Though I wouldn't claim really to understand it.) But I don't know what you mean by "this reasoning" or where Augustine says we all must read and understand Plato.

If in response to your saying that you've never come across the Divine gift of reason, somebody else says that your posts show it, why do you respond by calling that someone a sarcastic bugger? (Especially since where I come from "bugger" is an obscenity, and "beggar" is the barely acceptable "minced oath.") If it's not good to be able to reason well, why take offense when someone says you don't reason well. And if the right use of reason IS a good, then are you saying that there are some goods which are not Divine gifts?

As it is written:

Every good endowment and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change. (Jas 1:17 RSV)
ALPAPilot's reference to John 1:1 is completely relevant here. The Logos, the Second Person of the Trinity, is, involved in the gracious act of Creation. He is the Logos through whom all things were made, and without him was not anything made that was made.
Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that are made. (Rom 1:20a RSV)
This is why we can converse with, say, Buddhists or even atheists and find small patches of something like common ground. Not only moral perceptions but also perceptions concerning being and cause, one and many, same and other, essence and appearance are found to be shared by those whom God made (and made human) but with whom He has not yet shared His Gospel.

This piece says only that the study of Plato (and Plotinus) prepared Augustine for an understanding of some aspects of the Gospel. But it says nowhere that everyone must do the same. And from my reading of the Confessions I wouldn't say that Augustine says everyone must study Plato.

But that kind of distinction involves the careful use of reason, and the careful use of reason frequently interferes with the torrent of invective and abuse which characterizes so many posts here.

15 posted on 01/26/2009 12:40:22 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Here is Pope Benedict XVI on reason in the Scripture:

: "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached". The emperor goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. "God is not pleased by blood, and not acting reasonably is contrary to God’s nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death...".

The decisive statement in this argument against violent conversion is this: not to act in accordance with reason is contrary to God’s nature. The editor, Theodore Khoury, observes: For the emperor, as a Byzantine shaped by Greek philosophy, this statement is self-evident. But for Muslim teaching, God is absolutely transcendent. His will is not bound up with any of our categories, even that of rationality. Here Khoury quotes a work of the noted French Islamist R. Arnaldez, who points out that Ibn Hazn went so far as to state that God is not bound even by his own word, and that nothing would oblige him to reveal the truth to us. Were it God’s will, we would even have to practise idolatry.

As far as understanding of God and thus the concrete practice of religion is concerned, we find ourselves faced with a dilemma which nowadays challenges us directly. Is the conviction that acting unreasonably contradicts God’s nature merely a Greek idea, or is it always and intrinsically true? I believe that here we can see the profound harmony between what is Greek in the best sense of the word and the biblical understanding of faith in God. Modifying the first verse of the Book of Genesis, John began the prologue of his Gospel with the words: "In the beginning was the 'logos'". This is the very word used by the emperor: God acts with “logos.” “Logos” means both reason and word – a reason which is creative and capable of self-communication, precisely as reason. John thus spoke the final word on the biblical concept of God, and in this word all the often toilsome and tortuous threads of biblical faith find their culmination and synthesis. In the beginning was the “logos,” and the “logos” is God, says the Evangelist.

16 posted on 01/26/2009 4:35:49 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: Iscool

I didn’t say that reason was a GIFT of the Holy Spirit.

I said that it might be a benefit of one or more of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Wisdom, Knowledge, Councel, Fear of the Lord, etc. all could lead to sound reasoning.

Sorry you misinterpreted my post.


17 posted on 01/26/2009 4:49:58 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ALPAPilot
This is an very important address and, I think, does much to explain the basic theological difference between the Muslim and the Christian concepts of God.

And it IS hard to believe that "in the fullness of time" when the philosophical language of the Greeks was all over the Mediterranean coastline and when even Paul seems to have been acquainted with Stoic thought (as some say) the Holy Spirit chose the word "logos" casually in inspiring St. John.

And it seems clear to me how some types of Protestant skate very close to the edge of Ibn Hazn's notion. The notion of "reason" is debased until it is nothing more than the allegation that the brain is a "meat computer" and then since God must be more than a computer, reason must have nothing to do with Him. And so evangelism necessarily has a flavor more of brow-beating than of discussion and sharing. And the extreme of that is shown by those Muslims who seem to think, even now, that evangelism by sword, taxation, and oppression is perfectly legitimate.

18 posted on 01/26/2009 6:58:03 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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