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1 posted on 01/13/2009 1:03:01 PM PST by NYer
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Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
2 posted on 01/13/2009 1:03:53 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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Sounds like the John Kerry of Bishops.

He supported Vatican II before he opposed it.


3 posted on 01/13/2009 1:05:48 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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hypocrite?

or was he deceived in some way?


5 posted on 01/13/2009 1:42:39 PM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!)
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They are claiming Vatican II is tainted and invalid because Archbishop Lefebvre signed it?


6 posted on 01/13/2009 2:38:12 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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I don’t think anyone who is at all familiar with the SSPX and/or Abp. Lefebvre didn’t already know that he signed all the Vatican II documents.

The issue is what those documents actually mean, versus what they were later asserted to mean.

The SSPX is in imperfect communion with the Holy See, which is definitely a problem, and must be addressed as soon as possible. It should also be remembered that there are many parts of the “regular” Church in the cultural West (U.S., Europe, Australia, etc.) are at in at least as irregular a situation, when one considers what actually goes on at the average parish.


7 posted on 01/13/2009 2:42:15 PM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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Yes I had heard he signed all-—it has been the implementation of what almost all admit are vague and ambiguous critical areas of the documents that the Archbishop opposed

the current situation is a pity; if we had SP and all the recent changes 20+ years ago and no Assisi-I, we would not be in it, I don’t think


20 posted on 01/13/2009 4:57:39 PM PST by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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bumpus ad summum


33 posted on 01/13/2009 9:22:25 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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