What an absurd question.
Why?
absurdities have traditionally originated with some perspectives.
"Thou hast said it."
Posted on 01/13/2009 12:28:28 AM PST by unspun
Well put.
Excellent points.
I think that’s happened with many great men and women of God.
Even the wisest one—Solomon.
Some of the seemingly self-righteous know-it-all’s in and watching The Kingdom sure don’t know as much as they think they do.
Lots of folks think it’s quite easy and accurate to judgmentally put others and God, even, in tidy little boxes.
God is going to surprise some such folks hugely at some point in time.
Excellent point.
Thx.
One of the things that has always tickled me about Pentecostalism . . . and God moving in dramatic ways in general . . .
HE SEEMS TO HAVE A PASSIONATE HOBBY
for confounding the greatest of men’s wisdom
. . . often seemingly, with fairly off the wall stuff and/or channels.
Spit and mud on eyes for healing! Right! LOL.
Yet the blind could see. Not such a silly thing to him.
She absolutely did. She said that there would be economic terrorism... one country trying to manipulate another’s economy, etc... then she said there needs be a great awakening and the economic terrorism and the awakening would come together and that the awakening would (and I quote)”...wake up God. God will wake up.” Like it says in the Psalms, God will arise, she went on to say.
So, if God will wake up then He is not awake. Soooo, if God is not awake then He is... what? Resting His eyes?
Some folks make it a passionate hobby . . . if not an off-the-wall misguided notion of ‘ministry’
to throw rocks at solid Biblical understanding of
THE END TIMES
THE MODERN PROPHETIC
AND MIRACLES IN THE CURRENT ERA.
They are to be pitied to the max. Their Biblical understanding seems to be miniscule and even that overwhelmingly distorted.
Their seeming heart attitudes of haughty hostility etc seem to be worn like medals and badges of courage . . . if not great erudition—while actually being more the opposite.
Quite a sight.
However, it may keep some of them off the streets a bit. Don’t mind contributing to that. They could be doing worse damage ranting at someone else.
Perhaps so. Don't limit God as to his holy aspects of anything at all, ever -- including how he gives attention to created beings.
"My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" -- Jesus
The religious leaders of 2000 years ago in Jerusalem
were PhD experts at finding fault; throwing rocks; finding chinks in the armor; assaulting on a long list of technical details; . . .
it was clear to me what the intent of Cindy’s statement was.
However, if you think God’s mission for you in this life is to throw rocks at Cindy—have at it—whatsoever you do, do wholeheartedly as unto The Lord.
. . . though . . . in this case . . . be not surprised to discover one day . . . that God had and has a different perspective on Cindy than you seem to.
Reaping from smug haughty critical judgment sowing can be
INTERESTING
to the max.
LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED.
God let Hosea know just a bit about how He regards His Own in so many different ways (or not) at once (see Gomer).
Jonathon Edwards anointing
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
1700s
Wasnt he the one who was tarred and feathered and run out of GA or SC on a rail for preaching ???
He prophecied against them...
What’s wrong with just having an anointing from the Holy Ghost ????
What an absurd question.
Why?
absurdities have traditionally originated with some perspectives.
"Thou hast said it."
Jonathon Edwards anointingWasnt he the one who was tarred and feathered and run out of GA or SC on a rail for preaching ???
No.
Fascinating, unspun . . .
Given the 10+ years of evidence on FR of my perspective on The Trinity,
it would appear that no amount of massive evidence can seep through some granite craniums.
What a frightful state to be in. No wonder Holy Spirit has a hard time getting some folks to listen.
Not lately, and you?
Don’t limit God as to his holy aspects of anything at all, ever — including how he gives attention to created beings.
“My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” — Jesus
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Jesus was not “a created being”
Jesus is God...
Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN Son of God...
Jesus is the Word become flesh...
Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jhn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. John 1:1, 2
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:14
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 1 John 4:9
Thanks much for the ping, Quix. I agree with everything you’ve said in your post here. A part of me believes that some of these people are used by God because he wants us to look in places that we wouldn’t expect to find him - sort of proving the notion that God really is EVERYWHERE... It reminds me of the verse about truth coming from the mouths of babes - who would expect that children for example would understand truths of the spirit better than those who have the wisdom of years?
God’s word doesn’t always come to us through the expected channels. I fully agree that we should test our visions, thoughts, etc... as to how they agree/disagree with what we find in the bible, but I think that too often those who dismiss prophetic visions/dreams/etc... are reading things too literally at times as well. The ways God speaks to all of us doesn’t necessarily play out like a movie script. Rather, I believe he may be using our imagination and our minds to bring to our conscious awareness SUBJECTS, or ideas that he wants us to think further upon... He doesn’t ALWAYS, or even MOSTLY give us an “appointment” like message (i.e. he doesn’t usually say “Meet me at 3 p.m. in front of this building”, but he might cause you to for instance see a certain building, in the afternoon sunlight because he wants you to notice the building itself, using our subconscious and conscious minds to get us to examine things either about ourselves personally, or within the world).
I think perhaps this is why so many naysayers don’t understand prophetic visions. They seemingly believe that unless it’s an immediate understanding, or has quantifiable parts that it’s false. Who are we to understand what some of these visions mean - to the person who receives them? I’m not saying that every vision is only to be taken PERSONALLY, but that perhaps some of these prophetic people are carrying messages that mean different things to different people.
I know this may not make complete sense - my kids all seem to be talking at once and I don’t have time right this moment to refine this post... (UGH! You’d think that at their ages they could be amongst themselves for more than 10 minutes at a time somedays! ROFL)...
Anyway, I’ll come back and read this again after I calm them down and figure out what’s up with them! ;) I may have a better way to explain what it is I’m trying to convey here...
Not really.
Been full up wrestling with computer problems and home chaos . . . . finally getting some trash hauled off etc.
Certainly feels like lots of things are looming. Just don’t know how close and what mixture of things it will be.
Middle East certainly seems like some drunk teens playing with fire crackers in a nitro factory.
And God have mercy after 20 Jan.
Walk close to Him!
LUB
I think you make clear and excellent points.
Also, most of the time, in my experience and in the experience of many I know . . .
prophetic and/or ‘Word of Knowledge’ giftings sorts of information doesn’t USUALLY
come with specific crystal clear words chosen from on High—but with impressions that we attach words to and sometimes, probably more from our flesh and experience than from Holy Spirit, sadly.
SOMETIMES, things do come with specific words and woe be to us if we alter them. But I think that’s less common, so far.
I hope that becomes more and more the case—crystal clear specific words from God and unaltered by any of us receiving and sharing them.
I do expect to see that day.
Certainly I’m convinced that God laughs and has a good old time moving through VERY UNLIKELY VESSELS.
The DISCIPLES were all such.
Read your post, and I understand where you are coming from...
We have to make sure that we don’t make assumptions when it comes to the meaning of the word prosperous... It doesn’t mean that all of God’s children will be without want, or even need. It doesn’t even mean that some of the Lord’s children won’t perhaps die of sickness or starvation.
Think back to the depression for example... Did all of the Lord’s children have it easy? Most definitely not. But, what a lot of them did have was prospering of their SPIRIT, an overabundance of LOVE, a new focus on the small things in life, and a new understanding of what it means to trust in the Lord.
I think you know what I’m trying to get at here... There was a time in my life about 8 years ago, when it seemed that everything that could go wrong did. In between jobs, no medical insurance, and indeed barely enough money to keep food on the table, and a roof over our heads. HOWEVER, it never failed to amaze me that I could go to the grocery store with perhaps $10 (literally, not an exaggeration), and if I was truly careful, and creative I could walk back out with enough food to last us several days - at least enough to get us through till we got more funds. [Mind you, it was not food I would’ve CHOSEN (dried beans for example instead of meat), or a package of bologna instead of ham... Soups on sale, vs. making our own with fresh veggies...]. Heck, even the neighborhood we found a house to rent in was the type of area that would NEVER have been even a CONSIDERATION even months before, but the lessons I learned living through those times, and in that neighborhood, were things I would NEVER have learned had we not had the problems...
Therefore, especially in the coming months when we have been told finances might be troubling for many, we should keep in mind that OUR worldly definition of prosperous doesn’t necessarily match God’s definition of the same.
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