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Pope Benedict names new archbishop for Detroit
DetNews

Posted on 01/05/2009 6:00:12 AM PST by netmilsmom

This is an AP article and I don't think we can show any of it

The new ArchBishop of Detroit is Bishop Allen Henry Vigneron Of Oakland, CA

Does anyone have some good news on him????


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: benedictxvi; catholic; detroit; michigan; mtclemens; oakland; pope; vatican; vigneron
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1 posted on 01/05/2009 6:00:12 AM PST by netmilsmom
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To: NYer

http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090105/LIFESTYLE04/901050390/1361

Any good news on our new Archbishop?


2 posted on 01/05/2009 6:01:29 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom
AP is on the forbidden sources list, too? I know they suck, but, at the core, they all do. Might as well forbid 'em all.

Then this place would get pretty weird.

3 posted on 01/05/2009 6:05:21 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I’m almost positive that we can’t put up AP.

This one is a double whammy as it is AP and DetNews.


4 posted on 01/05/2009 6:07:29 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

Have you looked at the Vatican site, or EWTN, or ZENIT?


5 posted on 01/05/2009 6:08:54 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I can find out about him from different sources, but I was hoping that the FReepers could give me the scoop on how he REALLY is!


6 posted on 01/05/2009 6:11:18 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

I would be inclined to think B XIV would appoint someone who is solid.


7 posted on 01/05/2009 6:12:15 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: netmilsmom

There seem to be welkins being rung on the Right (so to speak), although it’s early for responses, not even daylight in the West.

Cardinal Maida, bless his heart, seemed to be well-intentioned, but isn’t he 103? It seems sort of like our situation with our former Bishop Curlin - a good guy, but he got too old to keep things under control.


8 posted on 01/05/2009 6:13:12 AM PST by Tax-chick (Buy Girl Scout cookies! Send them to the troops!)
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To: netmilsmom

Here’s the Italian Vatican site announcement. I’m not sure it’s up in English yet.

http://212.77.1.245/news_services/bulletin/news/23125.php?index=23125&lang=en#RINUNCIA%20DELL%27ARCIVESCOVO%20METROPOLITA%20DI%20DETROIT%20(U.S.A.)%20E%20NOMINA%20DEL%20SUCCESSORE

Vigneron is pretty solid. He helped reform the Detroit major seminary and turn it into a pretty solid place. I have a friend from Michigan who has a lot of contacts who has followed Vigneron for many years and thinks highly of him. Detroit as a whole is a basket case, but I think Vigneron will be good for the Church in Detroit. Of course, the Amchurchers are embedded in the bureaucracy everywhere. But as the pipeline fills with better young priests (and future bishops), brick-by-brick, the reform of the reform is underway. Vigneron is a good example—anyone paying attention for the past 15 years could see he was headed for where he is today and his positions on the issues were not unknown, at least to people paying attention.


9 posted on 01/05/2009 6:17:20 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: netmilsmom
Bishop Vigneron is fairly good. He was unable, however, to stop this monstrosity from being built:


10 posted on 01/05/2009 6:18:04 AM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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To: B Knotts
"Christ the Light" Cathedral......aka......."The Space Egg".

A snip at $190 million.

11 posted on 01/05/2009 6:24:15 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future"- Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: netmilsmom; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

12 posted on 01/05/2009 6:25:07 AM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: netmilsmom

This looks to be a good bishop. He was put in charge of the Detroit seminary, where he cleaned up the place and got a good, orthodox program going again. All seminarians now are required to get a degree in philosophy as recommended by John Paul the Great (to counter modernism). Excellent! I also found this on the Kick my Traces blog:

“Bishop Vigneron reminds Catholics of the teaching of the Second Vatican Council that it is a primary responsibility of laypeople to bear witness to the truth in the secular realm.
“As faithful citizens Catholics are called to bring our laws regarding marriage into conformity with what we know about the nature of marriage.” Faithfulness, however, does not ensure success.

“If such efforts fail, our way of life will become counter-cultural, always a difficult situation for Christians—one our forebears faced in many ages past, one that the Lord himself predicted for us. Indeed, even if such efforts meet with success, our work is far from done. We would still be living in a society where many accept a set of convictions that is ultimately detrimental to the integrity of human life, with negative consequences for one’s happiness in this world and the next. Your mission then will be, as it always has been, to be a light and leaven for the new creation established in Christ. The resources of the Theology of the Body, worked out by the late Holy Father, John Paul II, will be an especially helpful resource for this task.””


13 posted on 01/05/2009 6:26:09 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: B Knotts

I’ve seen worse.


14 posted on 01/05/2009 6:26:53 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: All

He’s looking good so far! Thanks everyone.


15 posted on 01/05/2009 6:38:25 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Houghton M.

>>. Detroit as a whole is a basket case<<

Truth be told!


16 posted on 01/05/2009 6:39:58 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom; The Invisible Hand
Excerpts from AP articles are allowed but The Detroit News is a Gannett owned publication and only a link is allowed.

Pope Benedict names new archbishop for Detroit

Associated Press

5:58 AM CST, January 5, 2009

A Michigan native was named Monday to replace Cardinal Adam Maida, who led the Detroit area's 1.4 million Roman Catholics for nearly two decades and forged a close bond with a former pope.

Pope Benedict XVI named Bishop Allen H. Vigneron, 60, who has been serving in California, as the new archbishop of Detroit.

Vigneron was an auxiliary bishop for the Detroit archdiocese before being named bishop of Oakland, Calif., in 2003. He was born in Mount Clemens, and his background includes assignments at Detroit's Sacred Heart Major Seminary.

In a statement, Vigneron said his selection comes as the state struggles economically.

"I recognize that this challenge for our civic community is -- as all societal problems -- a pastoral challenge as well," he said. "To that challenge, I want to bring all the riches of grace which the Holy Spirit has bestowed on the church."

excerpt

17 posted on 01/05/2009 7:00:57 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: netmilsmom
Formerly Bishop of Oakland in California, he 'invited the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest to the Diocese of Oakland in January, 2005' About St. Margaret Mary's in Oakland.

Bishop: Missal must be equal in English, Latin summarises his comments at the Gateway Liturgical Conference, this past November, on the on-going translation of the NO Missal into English.
The new translation "aims to be accurate and to have a sacred tone. The reason for this is so that the text will convey the Divine mysteries. This explains why the text will seem less familiar to us -- precisely because it's talking about things that are supernatural," Bishop Vigneron said.

[snip]

The new translation should not sound like what people are used to, Bishop Vigneron said. "If it really sounds familiar, that's a clue that we're on the wrong track because what the text presents is something beyond our experience."

"Liturgiam Authenticam" calls for the maximum degree of sameness between the Latin and the English texts of the liturgy. "Different names for the same thing won't do; the English text must have the closest equivalence to the Latin name for the thing spoken of," Bishop Vigneron said.

Consequently, texts will not be made to sound like what the laity has been used to.

Returning in the translation, for example, will be such important words in the Catholic vocabulary as "grace," "soul" and "charity."
This article also mentions his comments on the return of 'dew' to EP II.
18 posted on 01/05/2009 7:32:34 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: Mike Fieschko
He is responsible for the ICKSP being at St Margaret Mary but we have had TLM there for years, even in Cummings' time.

The poor man, Vigneron, was in a snake pit in the Oakland diocese and I hope his move to Detroit is a happy one.

Moreover, I hope his replacement is Catholic.

19 posted on 01/05/2009 7:40:44 AM PST by pbear8 (I have plenty of credit, there is no crunch)
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To: B Knotts

I refuse to enter this edifice.


20 posted on 01/05/2009 7:42:54 AM PST by pbear8 (I have plenty of credit, there is no crunch)
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