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1 posted on 01/05/2009 6:00:12 AM PST by netmilsmom
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To: NYer

http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090105/LIFESTYLE04/901050390/1361

Any good news on our new Archbishop?


2 posted on 01/05/2009 6:01:29 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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AP is on the forbidden sources list, too? I know they suck, but, at the core, they all do. Might as well forbid 'em all.

Then this place would get pretty weird.

3 posted on 01/05/2009 6:05:21 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: netmilsmom

Here’s the Italian Vatican site announcement. I’m not sure it’s up in English yet.

http://212.77.1.245/news_services/bulletin/news/23125.php?index=23125&lang=en#RINUNCIA%20DELL%27ARCIVESCOVO%20METROPOLITA%20DI%20DETROIT%20(U.S.A.)%20E%20NOMINA%20DEL%20SUCCESSORE

Vigneron is pretty solid. He helped reform the Detroit major seminary and turn it into a pretty solid place. I have a friend from Michigan who has a lot of contacts who has followed Vigneron for many years and thinks highly of him. Detroit as a whole is a basket case, but I think Vigneron will be good for the Church in Detroit. Of course, the Amchurchers are embedded in the bureaucracy everywhere. But as the pipeline fills with better young priests (and future bishops), brick-by-brick, the reform of the reform is underway. Vigneron is a good example—anyone paying attention for the past 15 years could see he was headed for where he is today and his positions on the issues were not unknown, at least to people paying attention.


9 posted on 01/05/2009 6:17:20 AM PST by Houghton M.
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Bishop Vigneron is fairly good. He was unable, however, to stop this monstrosity from being built:


10 posted on 01/05/2009 6:18:04 AM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

12 posted on 01/05/2009 6:25:07 AM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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This looks to be a good bishop. He was put in charge of the Detroit seminary, where he cleaned up the place and got a good, orthodox program going again. All seminarians now are required to get a degree in philosophy as recommended by John Paul the Great (to counter modernism). Excellent! I also found this on the Kick my Traces blog:

“Bishop Vigneron reminds Catholics of the teaching of the Second Vatican Council that it is a primary responsibility of laypeople to bear witness to the truth in the secular realm.
“As faithful citizens Catholics are called to bring our laws regarding marriage into conformity with what we know about the nature of marriage.” Faithfulness, however, does not ensure success.

“If such efforts fail, our way of life will become counter-cultural, always a difficult situation for Christians—one our forebears faced in many ages past, one that the Lord himself predicted for us. Indeed, even if such efforts meet with success, our work is far from done. We would still be living in a society where many accept a set of convictions that is ultimately detrimental to the integrity of human life, with negative consequences for one’s happiness in this world and the next. Your mission then will be, as it always has been, to be a light and leaven for the new creation established in Christ. The resources of the Theology of the Body, worked out by the late Holy Father, John Paul II, will be an especially helpful resource for this task.””


13 posted on 01/05/2009 6:26:09 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: netmilsmom
Formerly Bishop of Oakland in California, he 'invited the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest to the Diocese of Oakland in January, 2005' About St. Margaret Mary's in Oakland.

Bishop: Missal must be equal in English, Latin summarises his comments at the Gateway Liturgical Conference, this past November, on the on-going translation of the NO Missal into English.
The new translation "aims to be accurate and to have a sacred tone. The reason for this is so that the text will convey the Divine mysteries. This explains why the text will seem less familiar to us -- precisely because it's talking about things that are supernatural," Bishop Vigneron said.

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The new translation should not sound like what people are used to, Bishop Vigneron said. "If it really sounds familiar, that's a clue that we're on the wrong track because what the text presents is something beyond our experience."

"Liturgiam Authenticam" calls for the maximum degree of sameness between the Latin and the English texts of the liturgy. "Different names for the same thing won't do; the English text must have the closest equivalence to the Latin name for the thing spoken of," Bishop Vigneron said.

Consequently, texts will not be made to sound like what the laity has been used to.

Returning in the translation, for example, will be such important words in the Catholic vocabulary as "grace," "soul" and "charity."
This article also mentions his comments on the return of 'dew' to EP II.
18 posted on 01/05/2009 7:32:34 AM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: netmilsmom

Was he vetted by the UAW?


22 posted on 01/05/2009 7:49:24 AM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: netmilsmom

He is reputed to be a friend of Archbishop Burke’s:
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2009/01/new-archbishop-of-detroit/

Zuhlsdorf is normally quite well informed. He has another posting that sheds light on Benedict’s approach to choosing bishops—in this case the eventual primate for England. He apparently tried to bypass the “pipeline” and go for an abbot with a reputation for holiness. The abbot turned him down or said “not just now” because he wanted to straighten things out at his monastery. Zuhlsdorf’s contact in England says that Benedict’s main concern is finding bishops who know how to evangelize. It looks to me like he “gets it” regarding the way in which the bureaucratization has ruined leadership. My two cents: he may also realize that the day is not too far off when persecution will take away all the big organizational empires that manager-bishops were conventionally chosen to oversee. In persecution, you want a holy man, not a manager. Actually, we needed that all along, but . . . .

See http://wdtprs.com/blog/2009/01/a-priests-reflection-on-bishops/


26 posted on 01/05/2009 8:33:40 AM PST by Houghton M.
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good news bumpus ad summum


30 posted on 01/05/2009 6:44:48 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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