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To: allmendream

You wrote:

“Your lame defense was that ‘people didn’t think of the Latin Bible as a translation’.”

I have never made a lame defense in my life. I merely stated a fact. Here is EXACTLY what I wrote: “In the 1520s there was no authorized translation and the Vulgate was rarely thought of as a translation because of its ancient past.”

Notice, I used the past tense. To assume that people were stupid because the ancient Bible they used was rarely thought of as a translation is wrongheaded. They knew no other Bible commonly.

“Despite what stupid people “think” of the Latin translation of the Bible, it is a translation of the Bible.”

They weren’t stupid, not are you helping to prove your original erroneous point about Tyndale. Nice dodge though.

“Your quibble that it wasn’t “thought of” as a translation makes either you or the people doing the “thinking” sound pretty stupid.”

No, actually it doesn’t. It would be insipid not to realize that it is part of history that many readers of the Vulgate had it so thoroughly a part of their culture that its standing as a translation was all but forgotten by them. That’s the reality of history. I acknowledge that historical fact, while you dismiss it because you think the original historical reality shows stupidity. Whether or not people were stupid for believing it is irrelevant as to whether or not they believed it. I think people were stupid for voting for Obama. That doesn’t mean that I deny that they did it or that I think it is stupid for mentioning the historical reality that millions voted for Obama. Yet, that is exactly the sort of thing you are doing.

“Tyndall was tried and executed by Catholics for “heresy”.”

And not for translating the Bible into English.

“His most famous heresy, and the one that had him flee England, was the translation of the Bible into English.”

No. Translating the Bible was never considered heresy by any inquisition, or canon lawyer. No one can be accused of a heresy that isn’t a heresy.

The fact of that is shown in your every post as you UTTERLY FAIL to present even a single example of what you claim from a reputable source.

“Many translations of the Bible have been forbidden by the Church’s index of forbidden books.”

So? That does not mean producing a vernacular translation is heresy. You do think oranges and apples are the same thing don’t you?


60 posted on 01/06/2009 11:48:38 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

Your defense is lame and getting lamer.

Just because some ignorant people didn’t “think” of the Latin Bible as a translation doesn’t mean that it is not a translation. It is a translation, and no matter how much time passes, or how people “think” about it, it will always be a translation.


61 posted on 01/06/2009 12:33:13 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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