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To: AmericanArchConservative
deceiving others and never telling the casual listener that the KJV they offer is the JST - Joseph Smith Translation

Bzzzzt so sorry.

No copy of the KJV Bible that is in my home has the JST in it. All of my copies of the KJV, except the large leather bound heirloom display KJV I have were printed by the LDS Church. No copy of the KJV I have handed out in conjunction with the BoM has contained the JST.

Love it when people claim they deceive, when they themselves in the same sentence do the same.

214 posted on 01/05/2009 5:16:28 PM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: Domandred

Sorry - once again the ‘bzzzt’ is on you in the LDS camp - see post #208. Perhaps I should mention again that my wife is LDS...

So, I turned right around and asked her if it was the JST or not.

Her reply, “Well...yes and no...it IS the KJV, but with notes from the prophet, so it is kind of added to, or augmented.”

Evangelizing her heart and mind out of that cult is most certainly a process, but at her heart she is an extremely honest person who loves Christ. She just needs to know the REAL Christ - ie His real character and His True Biblical attributes, and I know she will embrace Him as He will her - and as I do.

I deceive in no wise - definitely never on a level with a certain Mr. Smith of the most questionable character.

I delight in the truth - especially telling the truth about craven liars like Joseph Smith.

Ecclesiates says that there is nothing new under the sun.

Indeed in many ways the fundamentals are not vastly different from a few ancient heresies which are well documented and well refuted.

Specifically, those heresies are Gnosticism (Greek ‘gnosis’ knowledge - which held that salvation was actually dependent upon hidden, or secret knowledge or information in the scriptures - info which was not readily apparent to all - especially the “uninitiated”...) and the “sub” heresy of Arianism, which taught erroneously that Christ was just another brother of us all - including probably Lucifer - and that in substance, He was no different than we, having been made as opposed to “Begotten’.

We know of course that Christ was Begotten, not made. He is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of G_d. He is the only one of whom it may be said that his mother Mary, was “overshadowed” by the Holy Spirit, and she did conceive in that unique manner.

{There is an interesting word study for all, BTW. Look up the word “overshadowed”. It is replete with meaning, and is incredibly specific and particular in the entire Bible - being used only one other time in that form.}

Both doctrinal concepts were given a very fair airing and trial at the first council of Nicea by Constantine the Great, who was a superb mediator, seeking both political peace in his empire, and communal peace among Christian brethren far and wide in order that the message of Christ might flourish.

It is common for folk looking backward through history to attribute one or the other motive to him, but he was far more intelligent, caring, and enlightened than to be so one-dimensional in his problem solving approach.

A.A.C.


273 posted on 01/06/2009 10:02:38 AM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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