Oh, Really???
Joh 6:26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.
You guys can't quote scripture to back up your fantasies because scripture doesn't back you up...
There are about 30,000 different Christian denominations now
Why do you guys keep repeating this proven lie??? You need to switch to some new material...
While there is one God, there are three distinct persons; Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Jesus can't give Himself “in the form of” the Spirit.
But He certainly did...You having trouble knawing on the Spirit???
So as to Chapter 6 of the Gospel of John, particularly verse 53, I take your referral to the command of Jesus as “propaganda” to mean that you would rather not discuss it. Sounds like you pretty much agree with those who said “this is a hard saying, who can accept it?
Not discuss it??? I discussed it in the post you are responding to...
As to sending the Spirit, yes, Jesus did as He said He would! He sent the Spirit to Peter and the other Apostles, and that Spirit has remained with His Church for the last 2000 years, and the Spirit will remain, as Jesus promised, until the end of the world!
Jesus didn't send the Holy Spirit to YOU???
Someone posted a long list of the prayers in the Catholic Mass and the scriptural basis of it.
I wouldn't be bragging too much...I checked out those references...I'll bet you didn't...
Finally, do not forget where the New Testament came from; it came from God through His Church.
More propoganda...The Scriptures came from God TO his church, NOT thru it...
Apparently the Catholic book of John, chapter six has only 5 or 6 verses in it...I have yet to see a Catholic comment on any verses except 'eat my flesh' and 'Jesus let the people go cause it was a hard saying'...
They followed Him until He said “eat my body and drink my blood”, they could not accept that, so they left.
As to “quote scripture”, I don't need to- it's there- you just interpret it incorrectly, like the other 29,999.
How is 30,000 denominations a lie? Are you saying there are more, or less? Jesus created a Church; these others are created by men. Technically, there are probably as many different denominations as there are non-Catholic Christians, as you have no Teaching Authority- you can pretty much believe whatever you want, as shown by your misinterpretation of scripture.
If you think “the Son” can somehow morph or change into the Holy Spirit, well, you're misinterpreting scripture more than you realize.
Well if you did discuss John 6:53 I must have missed it; I'll go back through the thread tomorrow and look for it; I have to leave work now, and don't have the time.
Yes, I have received the Holy Spirit, but not in the same way the church has it- I was not guaranteed that my interpretation of God's word is correct- that guarantee was given to the Church- not individuals. If it were, why the 30,000+ different interpretations? Seems to me if Jesus cared enough to spend 3 years teaching and preaching, then dying on the cross and rising, he would have wanted us the believe in Him, who is Truth. Everyone doing their own thing is not following Truth.
What scriptural reference in particular regarding the Mass do you have a problem with?
Not through His Church? Who wrote it? Under inspiration, I agree, but it was written, preserved, codified by the Church- under the Holy Spirit, but by the Church. Scripture itself has Jesus only writing once, and that was in sand.
As to John Chapter 6, it does have 71 verses; 1-15 about the feeding of the 5000, 16-21 about crossing the sea, 22-25 about the crowd following him, and 26-71 about the institution of the Eucharist. I assume we would not find much to disagree about in the feeding of the 5000 or crossing the sea; you're the one that wanted a scripture passage about the Eucharist!