They followed Him until He said “eat my body and drink my blood”, they could not accept that, so they left.
As to “quote scripture”, I don't need to- it's there- you just interpret it incorrectly, like the other 29,999.
How is 30,000 denominations a lie? Are you saying there are more, or less? Jesus created a Church; these others are created by men. Technically, there are probably as many different denominations as there are non-Catholic Christians, as you have no Teaching Authority- you can pretty much believe whatever you want, as shown by your misinterpretation of scripture.
If you think “the Son” can somehow morph or change into the Holy Spirit, well, you're misinterpreting scripture more than you realize.
Well if you did discuss John 6:53 I must have missed it; I'll go back through the thread tomorrow and look for it; I have to leave work now, and don't have the time.
Yes, I have received the Holy Spirit, but not in the same way the church has it- I was not guaranteed that my interpretation of God's word is correct- that guarantee was given to the Church- not individuals. If it were, why the 30,000+ different interpretations? Seems to me if Jesus cared enough to spend 3 years teaching and preaching, then dying on the cross and rising, he would have wanted us the believe in Him, who is Truth. Everyone doing their own thing is not following Truth.
What scriptural reference in particular regarding the Mass do you have a problem with?
Not through His Church? Who wrote it? Under inspiration, I agree, but it was written, preserved, codified by the Church- under the Holy Spirit, but by the Church. Scripture itself has Jesus only writing once, and that was in sand.
As to John Chapter 6, it does have 71 verses; 1-15 about the feeding of the 5000, 16-21 about crossing the sea, 22-25 about the crowd following him, and 26-71 about the institution of the Eucharist. I assume we would not find much to disagree about in the feeding of the 5000 or crossing the sea; you're the one that wanted a scripture passage about the Eucharist!
And you know this, how??? Verse 34, same group...Verse 41, same group...Verse 42, same group...Verse 52, same group...
Verse 24:
Joh 6:24 When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus.
The hungry Jews followed Jesus to Capernaum...
The same Jews obviously found Jesus at the synagogue:
Joh 6:59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
Joh 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
From the beginning, you get that??? Same group...Jesus refused to reveal His parables to unbelievers...
Yes, I have received the Holy Spirit, but not in the same way the church has it-
You got scripture to back that up with???
As to “quote scripture”, I don't need to- it's there- you just interpret it incorrectly, like the other 29,999.
I didn't interpret anything...You're the one trying to interpret...I'm just repeating what it says...
as you have no Teaching Authority-
No teaching authority??? I have as much teaching authority as anyone at any level in your church...
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That's because the authory is the scripture; not some single men who walk around in long robes looking religious...
If you think “the Son” can somehow morph or change into the Holy Spirit, well, you're misinterpreting scripture more than you realize.
So now you're the expert on the Trinity too, eh???
Yes, I have received the Holy Spirit, but not in the same way the church has it- I was not guaranteed that my interpretation of God's word is correct- that guarantee was given to the Church- not individuals.
You're wrong again...The Truth of the scriptures is in the scriptures...It's given to anyone who will accept it...
Not through His Church? Who wrote it? Under inspiration, I agree, but it was written, preserved, codified by the Church- under the Holy Spirit, but by the Church.
Your church is not THE church...Your religion split from the the universal church and moved in with Pagan Rome...Your religion became the official religion of Pagan Rome...