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To: Ottofire
I fail to see how any faith was exhibited by Herod. He earlier had demonstrated his murderous nature by having prominent Pharisees killed who had dared oppose him.

Herod also murdered members of his own family when he thought they plotting against him.
So hearing that the astrologers were searching for the king of the Jews he dispatched them to find this king so Herod could destroy him.

Herod’s mind set sounds more like paranoia than faith.

3 posted on 12/24/2008 5:36:52 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change; Ottofire

He exhibited faith, a belief in things unseen, that the Messiah was coming and that prophecy would be fulfilled. His was not saving faith. He tried to stop that Messiah. He set himself in opposition to God, as Satan did. And, alas, Herod is spending eternity away from God.

Faith alone isn’t enough. The demons also believe, and tremble.

We must individually receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, only then do we have saving faith.

Good post, Otto.


4 posted on 12/24/2008 5:54:05 AM PST by Jemian (PAM of JT!)
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To: count-your-change

To be targetted for murder by Herod was not exactly an exceptional position. I’m sure anyone who displeased him at a whim was dispatched, not to mention those whose names history has remembered. Locals in Jerusalem will still point out the weedy niche where is buried the unlucky architect of the Old City Wall, killed at Herod’s direction

They will also point out that from his bedroom window in his Old City castle, Herod’s bedroom window looked over the Gehenna Valley, to the hillside behind the present King David Hotel, where lay the tombs of his murdered wife Mariamne and their sons

To call Herod a “man of the Bible” implies that Hitler was, too


5 posted on 12/24/2008 5:56:07 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: count-your-change
Many people actually read a post before commenting on it.

Try it sometime. It really can save you.

7 posted on 12/24/2008 7:13:03 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Ottofire; count-your-change
Saving faith must be of a different kind than Herod's faith, which is fundamentally the same as Satan's faith.

Indeed it is. When Jesus spoke of a faith of a mustard seed that could move mountains in Matthew 17:20, He was using Herod as an example. Herod was the one man that had literally moved a mountain when he constructed his place/fortress of Herodium.

Herodium is 3 miles southeast of Bethlehem and 8 miles south of Jerusalem. The road from Jerusalem to Herodium runs through Bethlehem and Herodium can be seen easily from either city.

John also refers to Herod and Herodium in 1 Corinthians 13:2 when he says "and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing." This is the faith that Herod had. A faith without love that will not save.


Herodium as seen from Bethlehem.


Another view of Herodium.

9 posted on 12/24/2008 7:45:24 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: count-your-change

Amen. I don’t see any evidence of faith in Herod, either. He was a murderer. He was very paranoid. His massacre of children two years old and under in Bethlehem and in the coasts of Judes proves it. He was a forerunner of the pro-abortion movement, as was the Pharaoh who ordered that the Hebrew boys should be killed.


31 posted on 12/24/2008 10:10:22 PM PST by kevinw
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