King Herod, the believer

Pyromaniacs blog ^ | 23 December 2008 | Dan Philips

[count-your-change]

That’s it, son, you get it all out and you’ll feel better about yourself.
And when you’re done you can retreat to the comfort of your website where there are no clouds of dissent in your sky.
I know, it’s tough to think that anyone could read your post and remain Unimpressed but out here in Reality that’s the way of things, so (1)Deal with it (2)Add it to your list (3)Add a few hits to the ego counter.

Just mind your manners, you’ll be fine.

[count-your-change]

Your examples were fine. Faith without works is dead, then?

[Originalist]

Herod may (appears to) have believed in the Messiah, up to and including his belief creating “works” based on that belief. But he was missing the most important element of “saving faith”.

Herod's faith was without repentance. The Greek word translated “faith” or “belief” throughout the Gospels included an attitude of working repentance, not just the shallow belief we ascribe to in these days...

[Jemian]

Faith without works is dead, then?

I would affirm the truth of this saying. I do think that faith comes first and because of the faith instilled in me, I can now go out and show that faith by what I do. Works without faith is hollow.

[count-your-change]

Works without faith is hollow.

I think it also makes a person become indifferent and cynical about what they do.
So, as you say, the faith has to come first.

Good Day!

[BibChr]

Anticipated.

[count-your-change]

Nope, try again.

[BibChr]

Oh, I'm done with you until you deal with your foundational error. It's all public, all there for any reader; they'll just click up and see what you've made of yourself.

That's the beauty of such a forum. Well, beauty for such as don't use it to make fools of yourselves.

[count-your-change]

Foundational error? Like this:

“But King Herod should also be known for his deep faith in the Bible.”

Nope, your second attempt to insult those that don’t swallow your “foundational error” exegesis fails.....badly.
Don’t you just hate that you can’t delete comments from
“The Unimpressed”?
You can’t and THAT is the beauty of this forum. Bye now.

[Religion Moderator]

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

[kevinw]

Amen. I don’t see any evidence of faith in Herod, either. He was a murderer. He was very paranoid. His massacre of children two years old and under in Bethlehem and in the coasts of Judes proves it. He was a forerunner of the pro-abortion movement, as was the Pharaoh who ordered that the Hebrew boys should be killed.

[kevinw]

Oops, I meant Judea. Otherwise, I got everything else right.

[count-your-change]

Indeed, had Herod the least acquaintance with prophecy he would not have had to gather the priests and scribes to inquire where the messiah was to be born.

Plus Scripture did not have the messiah dying in infancy so if Herod had faith in the prophecies he would know his efforts were futile.