Posted on 12/21/2008 6:16:18 PM PST by Salvation
**I hope he will be surprised when true Christians rise up together and speak with one voice.**
I’ll put a fervent “Amen” to that hopeful thought/prayer.
(Christians CAN unite against him. I think he will be shocked.)
Good point. And I can see it happening.
I’m a Catholic. My wife is a non-practicing Methodist, she attends church with us.
I’ve read a lot of the position statements of mainline Protestant churches and a good many of them seem strongly pro-life, but they leave a bit of space for wiggle room amongst their congregants. It seems that the congregants take this wiggle room to have no opinion on the matter.
I live in a rural area and God bless the local Methodists are strongly pro-life, as is my church.
Fisrs topportunity to punch back will be 2 days after the Inaugural at the March for Life in DC.
Would love to see ALL my brothers and sisters in Christ there, too.
I marvel at Christ’s answer to Pilot-that His kingdom was not of this world. And we must remember that the true Church is made up of people from all nations, and all languages, and that there are those in the church that do not know Christ at all.
When anyone in any Church says wrong is okay, its just Satan saying its okay to eat the apple, you won’t die. There is nothing new under the sun. The Bible is quite clear on the abominations that God hates.
This is a touch off topic for the thread, but I read somewhere that after any and all councils, for about 50 years, chaos and insanity happens. We're in the last seven years of that and things are gradually going back to the way they should be. The Church hasn't changed, and sadly enough the humanity of the men in it hasn't either. Man is still prone to sin and without proper guidance will sin.
I've been thinking about the falling away recently as so many of my childhood friends have. It's more out of apathy than anything else. That's a personal decision. And, yes, right now the larger culture is playing a huge role.
That’s why people need to question the religions of men. There is no question about God and Jesus Christ, however.
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They won’t. Mankind will seek to be godly by submitting itself to external rules and regulations, and by conformity to behavior patterns imposed upon them by their particular Christian society..”which they have chosen” hope to be found “acceptable.”
They will in this way perpetuate the pagan habit of practicing religion in the energy of the “flesh,” and in the very pursuit of righteousness commit idolatry in honoring...”Christianity”..MORE than CHRIST!!
Yes too many CINO’s voted Obama. But that also could stand for Conservatives in name only. Obviously way to many of those voted for bHo too.
At least in the population centers of Texas there are options. Do you prefer formal/high church or informal/low church?
Why would that happen? It is obvious that far too many not only voted for him, but stayed home to ignore another choice.
McCain was a choice like many Christians, including Catholics make in their religious life. Yes you don't like some of what the church's teachings, laws and rules are, but you still follow them because that is part of what you agreed to when you joined.
So voting for Obama was reprehensible, but not voting for the only other possible winner was too!
I am sure other mainline churches like the Presbyterians, Episcopalians, and Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is are the same way, it's the hierarchy that sit in their HQ’s and go over spreadsheets and editorials and think to themselves “well maybe if we change this or deemphasize this or discard that we will get more members or be seen as more modern” that I see as the problem.
Well put.
True. Lubbock has many choices, and Houston and DFW has just about every denomination you could imagine. I am sure it’s the same in San Antonio and Austin too.
I would say I prefer a high church option. When I lived in Houston a few years back I attended a Methodist Church that preformed Communion and I absolutely loved it.
That is one of the main reasons I am really leaning towards the Missouri Synod denomination of Lutheranism at this point.
I said “hope”, I can’t actually say for certain.
If FOCA is the first legislative issue out of the box ~ I don’t think it will be ~ I should hope that Christians and conservatives would speak out. It’s more likely that Obama would appoint a radical to the Supreme Court and the candidate’s radical positions would simply be glossed over by the media.
I don’t buy that reprehensible for “voting for the only other possible winner” stuff. If you feel that strongly about it I don’t take issue with it.
I voted for the candidates who fell in line on most of my issues and would be most supportive of our troops in harms way.
There are many things I admire and appreciate about the Catholic Church, but I could never join the church due to some very deeply held beliefs I have that conflict with Catholic Church Teachings.
But I certainly respect Catholics and the Catholic Faith, and I greatly admired Pope John Paul the II. I don't get the fervent anti-catholic beliefs and demonizing of the pope that some fundamentalist Protestants hold.
I know some of those “modern Evangelicals”, I believe they will die on the vine.
My local Methodist church is very pro-life and very nicely ecumenical, just a few block from my church, but I susspect that issues are treated differently as one moves into metropolitan areas.
What I have seen on Anglican and Lutheran websites would seem to indicate that they are pro-life. However there seems to be a lack of a singular and authoritative voice on some of the social issues. I don’t have this problem with the Catholic Church, though a few of it’s clergy and a number of it members might take issue with these teachings.
I can pretty much quote them chapter and verse (or I can find a position in the catechism of the Church). If a priest or a religious or spiritual director tries to mislead in my church I can point them to the correct teaching, courtesy of the Magesterium.
That would seem to be a good place to start. I was looking, but couldn’t find any Anglican churches up there yet.
I’d recommend Providence Presbyterian (PCA) www.providencepca.org for its theology, but I don’t know anything about its style, so I have no idea if it would be a good fit for you. My guess is that you would find it too informal.
Thanks for the tip! I will explore there website and visit the church.
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