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To: XeniaSt; thatjoeguy

Thanks for your input. Your research sounds reasonably solid.

However, I remain convinced that key aspects of that perspective were operant in the first 100-300 years of the church.

thatjoeguy—I agree about the wall.


143 posted on 12/21/2008 8:01:56 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs QUOTEs FM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Thanks for your input. Your research sounds reasonably solid.

However, I remain convinced that key aspects of that perspective were operant in the first 100-300 years of the church.

I agree with you, that it is first century belief.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
144 posted on 12/21/2008 8:15:31 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Quix

Thanks, I was a firm believer of the pre-trib doctrine its what I grew up with and all I knew. When it was first challenged in a article I was reading a few years ago, I was stunned. So I set out to prove and defend it, within a short time though I started to have my doubts about the pre-trib rapture and those doubts eventually gave way to the realization that its not true. I spent nearly a year of research on it, (being unemployed then I had lots of time) I’ve read thousands of pages worth of early church writers (mainly the 80-250AD era), and have yet to find any hint of it.

I honestly feel its one of Satan’s tactics to put the average christian at ease. Why study and prepare yourself if your not going to be there for the final exam.

Also look at it this way, if the tribulation did start and the warning went out, how many christians would simply not believe it because they are still here?

Jesus told us to watch, but then why watch when your expecting Jesus to come get you?

Sorry, but the more I look at it now the less it makes sense.
JB


146 posted on 12/22/2008 2:27:28 AM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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