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Eucharist kneeling request sparks controversy [Catholic Caucus]
WCR ^ | December 15, 2008 | DEBORAH GYAPONG

Posted on 12/12/2008 6:48:14 AM PST by NYer

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To: AnAmericanMother

“I bet none of the Orthodox are doing the “field goal heave”, imitating the priest’s gestures, or holding hands and holding their hands above their heads during the Our Father . . . .”

Oh, Gawd!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Probably just as good we don’t have intercommunion. I’d likely start gagging.


41 posted on 12/12/2008 12:26:54 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Make you a deal: we'll send all those goofy folks to the Episcopal Church (with BXVI's help and encouragement) in exchange for the few remaining orthodox and highly reverent Anglicans.

THEN we can move forward!

42 posted on 12/12/2008 12:29:53 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary - recess appointment))
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To: Kolokotronis

>>Beware the OCA and its usually self serving opinions, netmilsmom.<<

Well then I’ll go with this.
Traditionally in the Latin Catholic Church we kneel.

I’ll go with the tradition!


43 posted on 12/12/2008 12:31:05 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: pbear8

>>Did I mention we live in Paganville? <<

LOLOL!
That must be near where I live. Innovation Central.


44 posted on 12/12/2008 12:32:15 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: AnAmericanMother

“Make you a deal: we’ll send all those goofy folks to the Episcopal Church (with BXVI’s help and encouragement) in exchange for the few remaining orthodox and highly reverent Anglicans.”

If you send their priests, bishops, monks and nuns with them, I’d say that was a great start! :)


45 posted on 12/12/2008 12:33:44 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: netmilsmom

“Traditionally in the Latin Catholic Church we kneel.

I’ll go with the tradition!”

Very good. Let the Slavs be upset!


46 posted on 12/12/2008 12:34:32 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

>>Very good. Let the Slavs be upset!<<

Define Slavs. Like Yugoslavs?


47 posted on 12/12/2008 12:37:59 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

“Define Slavs. Like Yugoslavs?”

Serbs, Bulgarians, Russians, those types.


48 posted on 12/12/2008 12:42:03 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

>>Serbs, Bulgarians, Russians, those types<<

Thanks!


49 posted on 12/12/2008 12:46:24 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: NYer
Isn't there something rather symbolic about refusing to "bend the knee" before Jesus truly present?

Could we say this is something of a metaphor for the attitude of many to not only Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament but also His Church? A metaphor for the refusal to accept Catholic teaching and dogma?

A symbol of pride perhaps? Rebellion? Kneeling is the position of the supplicant......the humble man.

50 posted on 12/12/2008 1:08:52 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future"- Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow
A metaphor for the refusal to accept Catholic teaching and dogma?

It's arrogance! That attitude is quite pervasive in today's society. And, as you well noted, a lack of humility.

51 posted on 12/12/2008 1:14:54 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

If it isn’t whether you stand or kneel, then you would not want to create a big stink about being asked to kneel, now would you?

And he is right, it is NOT about whether you stand or kneel - it is whether you will worship the Lord God Almighty in accordance with the leadership He has lovingly given to you as a loving father-figure with authority, aka your bishop.


52 posted on 12/12/2008 1:49:31 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: NYer

If it isn’t about whether you stand or kneel, then why have so many parishes chosen to demonstrate defiance by arbitrarily deciding to stand in defiance of long-held practice and norm that everyone was happily following?

I was in a parish where we were forced to stand instead of kneel. First we were scolded as being so stupid and immature that we knelt, then we were threatened that we were being disobedient and sinful by kneeling in accordance with Church law but in defiance of the local priest. Then we ignored that, the preist would scold us DURING THE CONSECRATION demanding that we stand.

And if it isn’t about whether we stand or kneel, why was my family scolded for kneeling during the consecration (in accordance with Church law but apparently in defiance of the unbekwnonst-to-us “law” of the local priest) when we went to a small daily Mass in a new town (where we lived temporarily)?

Sure. Its not about whether we stand or kneel.


53 posted on 12/12/2008 2:11:24 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

I hope you did the rational thing and immediately left that parish.


54 posted on 12/12/2008 4:16:44 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: nina0113

My pastor (a very reverent Novus Ordo guy) recently told me that with a few years we can expect to be receiving the host on the tongue again. There are just too many abuses with receiving it in the hands.

I suggest all of us set the example and reverently receive Communion on the tongue. I know that because I started two other ladies now receive on the tongue.


55 posted on 12/12/2008 10:29:25 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: netmilsmom

I was surprised that the list did not include a genuflection.


56 posted on 12/12/2008 10:30:50 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
I dont know about you, but I sure dont feel worthy to STAND in the presence of the Lord Almighty!!!

Somehow I don't picture myself standing proudly before Christ, bragging about how good I was and how lucky Christ is to have wonderful me in His Presence. But I am a flawed person. I guess some folks have it all figured out, that they are the center of the universe and they don't need to kneel before the Almighty.

57 posted on 12/14/2008 10:43:02 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Catholic Caucus: Kneeling for communion... "Profound meaning," says Cañizares
58 posted on 12/17/2008 7:51:10 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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