And It Was Night. The Real Story of Original Sin [Ecumenical]

Chiesa.com ^ | December 11, 2008 | Sandro Magister

[xhrist]

"...as I believe that God’s knowing something will happen, means it will."

Didn't Mary have a choice to say No?

we can never know what God "knows", its incomprehensible; however, with our free-will and His Grace, we can know His Will.

[stuartcr]

I’m sure she thought she did. I believe His will, is what is happening.

[xhrist]

I believe in real Good and real Evil in our world...and our free will to make choices...God has given us a clear path to follow His Will

"I believe His will, is what is happening."
You have no say in the matter? So it's completely out of you're hands whether you are on his naughty or nice list come the end times? Hard to rectify a concept that if you 'think' your 'saved', you get a free ride your whole life regardless of personal actions.

[TASMANIANRED]

The Church has been deeply blessed by having Benedict as pope...

He is bringing much clarity to the muddled mess that Vatican II brought about.

I've falling in love with his writings, I'm on my 2nd book of his..I wish I'd have found them 20 years ago.

[stuartcr]

I do not believe in the end times. I do not believe anyone gets a free ride, as we are all subject to the laws and mores of when and where we live.

[frogjerk]

I do not believe in the end times. I do not believe anyone gets a free ride, as we are all subject to the laws and mores of when and where we live.

Your non-belief may make you feel better but it doesn't change the Truth because it is immutable.

[xhrist]

wow, no end times for you...
being immortal would certainly take care of any concerns regarding free-will indiscretions...

[NYer]

The Church has been deeply blessed by having Benedict as pope... He is bringing much clarity to the muddled mess that Vatican II brought about.

You are absolutely correct! He is a veritable gift to the Church. Following his election I recall hearing a radio dj refer to him as 'an interim pope'. Nothing could be farther from the truth. As Catholics we believe and know that the Holy Spirit chooses the successor to Peter. Thank you for the comments!

[stuartcr]

If what you believe is the truth, then that is correct.

[stuartcr]

Sorry, I didn’t know that by the end times, you met our individual death. That I do believe in.

[xhrist]

Not sure there really is any difference between your(our) end time and the world's end times, seeing either way the body will be dead ...

by your own comment,"I believe His will, is what is happening."...
So what of Your Soul at your death? What might His Will be then?

God is clear as to what his 'expectations' are for each of our inevitable ends.

[stuartcr]

I do not know God’s will.

[little jeremiah]

Bookmark for later reading.

[xhrist]

hmmm...so you believe God's Will might be that you are to end up going to Hell? of no fault of your own? with no possibility of redemption..

your initial post mused, why God would put the snake and apple tree here, if He knew what was to come.
I guess the bigger question is,
Why did He put YOU here,
if He knew what you were going to do anyways?

[stuartcr]

I don’t believe there is a hell.

I believe only God knows why we are here. I figure that’s His business and I really don’t have a need to know. I’m just thankful He made me and my life the way He did.

[xhrist]

well, you have successfully answered your own question of
'Why God would put the snake and apple tree here..'

"that’s His business and you really don’t have a need to know"

[stuartcr]

I guess that means you don’t know either, thanks and Merry Christmas.

[Dajjal]

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