Posted on 12/02/2008 1:50:41 PM PST by RGPII
The Shroud of Turin is one of the great enduring mysteries of all time, with its authenticity debated for years. Many believe it's the burial cloth of Jesus and the only physical link to Him, while others maintain that it is nothing more than an elaborate hoax. In fact, in 1988, a team of scientists radiocarbon dated the Shroud and concluded it was fake, dating back to the Middle Ages (1290-1360), long after Jesus was crucified. And that's where the story stood, unchallenged -- until now.
Discovery Channel's one-hour original special UNWRAPPING THE SHROUD: NEW EVIDENCE attempts to unravel the truth about the cloth on Sunday, December 14, 2008 from 10-11PM ET/PT.
The special event features the story of Ray Rogers, a respected chemist from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and member of the original team of scientists who examined the Shroud. Rogers came across a paper written by a husband and wife from Columbus, Ohio that claimed the 1988 radiocarbon dating was inaccurate. According to the couple, the test sample that was used had been taken from a section of the Shroud that had been repaired in the 16th Century, skewing the results. Expecting to prove this couple wrong, Rogers went back to examine the sample of the Shroud he tested years earlier, and what he found astonished even himself. In his last days (he had been battling cancer), Rogers made a video -- which before now has never been seen -- detailing his conclusions.
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Thanks for the link.
Sure, if it makes you feel good to say that.
Sure, if it makes you feel good to say that.
Thanks a lot.
Then be watching.
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Too much sugar?
thanks for putting in link
Can’t wait to see this Saturday
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12/14/2008 5:51:26 PM PST · by Soliton · 24 replies · 302+ views
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We DVR’d the program, and are watching it right now.
Seems to me, years ago, I watched a special on the shroud, and one of the experts that was on the team...or perhaps it was the photographer...I don’t remember, but he was a Jewish Man, who doesn’t believe in Jesus...and he stated that the Shroud was NOT a fake. That there was no explaination for the image.
So, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of agreement on this team of experts!
It was rather interesting. A couple who had read about the results of the Carbon 14 dating had questioned the findings, because they'd done research showing that the areas of the Shroud that were subjected to the dating, could have been taken from an area of the Shroud that had been re-woven in the middle ages. To them, that explained why the spread of time of the dating was so broad.
Rogers, who was one of the original scientists on the study, at first dismissed the couple's findings, because they were not even scientists. He complained to the photographer, and said that he could prove them wrong in 5 minutes. The photographer just told him to go for it. Rogers was shocked to find that the couple WAS right!
The final part of the show mentioned that the reliquary for the Shroud had been treated with a substance that would keep insects from attacking it. That treatment would keep the Carbon 14 dating from being accurate, but there are some areas of the Shroud that were removed before it was returned to the treated reliquary; the ones that were from the areas that were burned in a fire in the 15th century. It's possible that these areas, when the carbon from the fire is removed, could go through the dating process again. It will be interesting to see if Church officials, and the scientists, will agree to do it.
The only reason to have the show, it seems, was to air again the false and discretited Carbon 14 dating to lend some new legitimacy to it.
Some of the pieces that had been damaged in the fire in the 15th Century were original to the Shroud, and those had been removed before the Shroud was put back in its new treated reliquary. He suggesed that those be used. Remains to be seen if any will.
Carbon dating is probalby the least interesting thing about the Shroud. I’d like someone to explain how the image got on it in the first place, given the microscopic nature of the image on the fibers of the shroud, and its photographic proportions, inconsistent with the idea of a body being wrapped.
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