Remember: Politics not science decided that homosexuals are 'normal'

Let us, for a moment, rewind to the year1970. In this year, same-gender sex activists began a program of intimidation aimed at the American Psychiatric Association (APA). Activist Frank Kameny states the movement’s objective clearly, “I feel that the entire homophile movement…is going to stand or fall upon the question of whether or not homosexuality is a sickness, and upon our taking a firm stand on it…” (The Gay Crusaders, by Kay Tobin and Randy Wicker, p. 98)

In 1970, psychiatrists generally considered sexual desires toward members of one’s own gender to be disordered. Karoly Maria Kertbeny’s term, “homosexual” was the official descriptor for those inflicted by this mental-physical disassociative disorder. Psychiatry’s authoritative voice influenced public opinion, which at the time was negative toward same-gender sex. Of course, public sexual activity in parks and public restrooms contributed to societies negative views about the types of people that did such things, but “scientific opinion” was crucial in the public attitude.

Led by radicals like Frank Kameny, same-gender sex activists attacked many psychiatrists publicly, as Newsweek describes, “But even more than the government, it is the psychiatrists who have experienced the full rage of the homosexual activists. Over the past two years, gay-lib organizations have repeatedly disrupted medical meetings, and three months ago—in the movements most aggressive demonstration so far—a group of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos for twenty minutes. ‘We are here to denounce your authority to call us sick or mentally disordered,’ shouted the group’s leader, Dr. Franklin Kameny, while the 2,000 shocked psychiatrists looked on in disbelief. ‘For us, as homosexuals, your profession is the enemy incarnate. We demand that psychiatrists treat us as human beings, not as patients to be cured!’” (Newsweek, 8-23-71, p.47)

Ironically, at the very moment Franklin Kameny was claiming that same-gender sex was healthy, safe, and natural, a deadly virus was silently passing through communities of men all over the nation as a result of the promiscuous, unhealthy nature of the sex they were having. Only a decade later, thousands of men would be dead or dying, of AIDS.

On June 7, of the following year, 1971, Franklin Kameny wrote a letter to the Psychiatric News threatening the APA with not only more, but worse, disruptions. In this letter he states, “Our presence there was only the beginning of an increasingly intensive campaign by homosexuals to change the approach of psychiatry toward homosexuality or, failing that, to discredit psychiatry.” (The Gay Crusaders p. 130-131)

Same-gender sex activists continued to pressure the APA through 1973. A same-gender sex magazine, The Advocate, talks of “…what happened in 1973…referring to the widespread protests by the gay and lesbian community that led to the APA’s dropping homosexuality from the DSM.” (The Advocate, 12-28-93, p.40) As a result of the pressure, in the words of the prominent journalist and same-gender sex activists, Andrew Sullivan, in December of 1973 the APA, “…under intense political pressure…removed homosexuality from its official list of psychiatric disorders…” (Love Undetectable, book by Andrew Sullivan, 1998, p. 107) Under this “intense political pressure” the APA’s board of trustees finally caved in to the demands of same-gender sex activists. Another same-gender sex activist Mark Thompson writes, “Just before the first of the year, the American Psychiatric Association’s board of trustees declared we were no longer sick.” (The Long Road to Freedom, ed. by Mark Thompsan1994, p. 97)

Just thought I would add this interesting note.
Btw Transsexualism is still recognized as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders 4th Edition (DSM-IV) codes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-IV_Codes#Gender_identity_disorders

(Normally wouldn’t quote wikipedia but making an exception in this case.)

Whats interesting to note is that there is a similar movement of transsexuals to get Transsexualism removed from the list of mental disorders. Heres what some of them have to say

“Many transgender people do not regard their cross-gender feelings and behaviors as a disorder. People within the transgender community often question what a “normal” gender identity or “normal” gender role is supposed to be. One argument is that gender characteristics are socially constructed and therefore naturally unrelated to biological sex.”

Whatever be the case this looks to me like a patient telling the doctor what is normal or isn’t and this makes me wonder.

they may be productive citizens in spite of being homo if in fact they stay in the closet. Scandal ensues if they try to pass off their problem as “normal” in front of impressionable people

your argument: will you apply it for drunkeness, racketeering, organized crime, polygamy, fornicators, and many other social evils. Many of these people have nice productive careers too (besides organized crime)

Hey I know lots of drunks who had nice careers. My wife worked with many lesbos, and they were very unhappy people outwardly, but I guess rare exceptions as with your friends mean we should change on a whim 2000+ years of experience.

I’d say 25 years of AIDS, millions of dead young men, absolutely filthy unnatural behavior, billions of dollars of spent to cure/treat a disease easily prevented show the “Fruit” of unleashed homo behavior. Hard to believe as a society that after all this, we are now going to remove any last vestige of stigma.

“...will you apply it for drunkeness, racketeering, organized crime, polygamy, fornicators, and many other social evils...”

There is no comparison. These are behavior issues not necessarily related to any biological factors.

My original statement on this thread was related to how homosexuals view themselves. Through the years, I have met and worked with hundreds of male and female homosexuals. (The medical field is an attractive profession for them.) My experience has been that they are unhappy people. Not all, but most I have known are.

The politics of militant homosexuality is an attempt for them to achieve a level of ‘normalcy’ within society. This is my opinion, nothing more.

Deep down, they realize they are very different. Thus the high rate of teen suicide among gays and lesbians. In the past 20 years, society and science have gained a greater understanding and tolerance of homosexuality. This is a good thing. They can’t help who they are. However, that does not mean social norms; i.e. marriage; should be opened to them; especially the flaming in-your-face perverts.

Adoption is a pet peeve with me. My ex and I spent thousands and jumped through hoops for years to adopt only to be refused because I reached 40. The adoption industry, and that is what it is, in this nation is a disgrace! Then Rosie O’Donnell adopts a baby!!

Grrrrrrrrrr!!!

"The politics of homosexuality is composed of groups of miserable people who are demanding that society declare them 'normal'. IMO"

IMO, your opinion is right on target. I've known a number of gays over the years, and NONE of them were mentally normal (and not just the "gayness" issue, they were unbalance in other ways, too). Some were VERY bright--but still nutso.

"If you want to argue that homosexuality is bad, you have to find a more rational basis for such an argument than the mere fact that it is "abnormal," at least if you want to convince rational people of your position."

Gee---how about the fact that homosexual behavior is responsible for rampant disease among it's practitioners, and a severe shortening of their average lifespan?? Isn't that enough???

“I don’t understand the question. If by “recruiting others” you mean coming on to them, they do it for the same reason that I (a heterosexual male) used to “recruit” girls in high school—because I found them sexually attractive.”

Actually, I meant trying to convince young, impressionable pubescent boys that liking other boys is perfectly normal, and then encouraging them to the exclusion of members of the opposite sex. It was a major issue at my son’s H.S.. He was trying to find friends when he started high school and latched onto the first familiar face. Unfortunately the first familiar face happened to be a self proclaimed lesbian and she introduced him to her friends who all happened to belong to GSA. I tried to not make it an issue til it started to affect him, which affected me. First week in high school and he came home and told me he was gay, I reacted in a very unchristian manner. I could not believe the look on his face when he told me this, his whole countenance changed and I could see the evil on his face. I was completely overwhelmed. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate homosexuals, but I don’t condone their behavior either. Three weeks into the school year and I pulled him out as things were deteriorating very fast. Now three years later my son has told me he’s glad I did it. Thank God.

“Sorry, it still amounts to coming on to them for the purposes of having sex (just as I did with girls), not some kind of international gay conspiracy to expand their ranks.”

You could not be more wrong. I know they have an agenda. They already said they were coming after our kids. Go to the website Exodus.org (I think that’s what it is) and read about the gay agenda. It’s an eye-opener. You’re naive to think there’s nothing there.

“...Some were VERY bright—but still nutso...”

That’s been my experience.

True story:

A former co-worker of mine was named Gay. One morning while making my rounds, the nurse manager was orienting a new hire RN.

My friend introduced herself, “Hi, I’m Gay.”

The new nurse’s eyes brighten and she beamed, “Really!? Me too!”

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