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To: baa39
I'm sorry, but I have to pick a nit, though only on a theoretical basis:

A Catholic cannot support a candidate who deliberately promotes an intrinsic evil, particularly abortion. There is no obfuscation or wiggle room, just lots of fancy rhetoric from CINO’s like “Voice of the Faithful” and other such groups.

Try this: Simply, if the other candidate promoted a worse intrinsic evil, then one could vote for a candidate who promoted an intrinsic evil.

At the other end of the spectrum, if one votes for a candidate BECAUSE he supports an intrinsic evil (and all the conditions about knowing what you are doing are met), one is fer shur committing mortal sin.

The muddy ground, again theoretically, is in the middle. The "arguments" FOR voting for Obama have pretended to maintain that defending the country against her enemies and treating with comparative mercy people who never signed on to the Geneva conventions and who violate them incessantly is somehow a worse intrinsic evil than killing gazillions of innocents.

Personally, I don't see how a person of unimpaired mental faculties could argue that.

I think the priest was correct, and his admonition was pastoral and courageous. I think the Monsignor overreacted badly, and his reproof was misdirected and, probably, not a really good example of the virtue of fortitude.

15 posted on 11/18/2008 4:47:00 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Well, as you say, if the other candidate promised a worse intrinsic evil, then you could vote for Obama. But, of course, McCain did nothing of the kind.

What is a worse intrinsic evil than killing 50 million babies?

If McCain had promised to nuke all of Canada, maybe, because he didn’t like gay lumberjacks, or something absolutely insane like that, with a similar scale of killings, then OK, vote for the other guy. But I don’t recall hearing anything like that from him.


16 posted on 11/18/2008 1:01:58 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mad Dawg
Social Justice trumps evil.

Church of Anunciation in Longwood Fl, is having one big problem with that. At RCIA meetings they were passing out fliers in support of Obama/democrats. The sister of John Morgan (Personnel injury attorney/Real Estate mogul, the obnoxious “forthepeople.com” crap) is a bigwig in the Church and John is a bigwig in democrat circles. Also other staff in the Church are involved with the DNC. Either the clergy were in on it or were absolutely blind.

I have known the Pastor, Monsignor Caverly for 30 years. He is up there in age and I believe some of the younger staff/volunteers take advantage of this. Pretty big scandle from what I been hearing.

21 posted on 11/18/2008 1:18:07 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Sorry, "Social Justice trumps evil when it comes to elections."
22 posted on 11/18/2008 1:20:06 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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