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To: SmithL; Jo Nuvark

The end of the article said — “The evangelical mantra that Mormons aren’t Christian — as well as this year’s raid in Texas of a polygamist sect, a group not always distinguished from mainstream Mormonism — feeds into that, he said.”

Well, the Evangelicals are right, in that Mormons do *not* teach basic, historic and foundational Christianity. Mormons say that *this* teaching of Christianity is corrupt and is not valid and only *they* (i.e., the Mormons) have the true Gospel. Well, that’s garbage and not true. But, it *does show* that the Mormons *recognize* that they are teaching a *different Gospel* than the traditional teaching of the historic, basic Christian Church. They can’t deny that. And hence, that’s what causes Evangelicals to denounce the Mormons as not teaching Christianity.

It goes on and says — “Richard Davis, a political science professor at church-owned Brigham Young University, said intolerance of Mormons extends from the secular left to the religious right. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s Mormonism was attacked by some evangelicals — Mormon allies on Proposition 8.”

This so-called “intolerance” is just “spin language” to try and say that the basic, historic Christian teachings cannot be *distinguished* from *false teachings* of other cult groups. A “cult group” in the Christian context is *any group* that teaches anything other than the historic, basic and foundational Christian teachings — given over the centuries.

And finally — “That’s where the LDS church is right now,” Davis said, “despite years of efforts to improve the image of the church.”

Well, there is *no image* to improve — if — they are *not teaching* basic, historic and foundational Christian doctrines and teachings from the Bible (which they clearly admit, by their “denouncing” of these doctrines) that they are not!

There’s no image at all to improve — in the sense that they *try* to “make out” like they are a “Christian Group”. They are not..., they are a Mormon Group, pretending to be “Christian” but denying all the basic, historic and foundational teaching (by their own words and their own *denouncements* of historic Christianity being *defective*).

However, having said all that, if *any group* wants to denounce gay marriage, then the Christians are right in there, too...


8 posted on 11/12/2008 1:26:06 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Just think, your superior church probably sat at home and did nothing to stick up for families and morals. You probably managed to preach about it though.


14 posted on 11/12/2008 1:34:18 PM PST by freeplancer (McCain Voters Catch the Lobsters-Obama Voters Eat Them)
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To: Star Traveler
Why do Mormon bashers keep harping that same line?

Every religion considers their religion to be the best and most perfect definition of God's will. That's sort of the point of having a separate religion.

After all, if the Baptists thought the Catholics had a better understanding of God's will and they had a better chance of reaching heaven by being Catholics, why would they stay Baptist?

Christians, regardless of denomination, do themselves no favors with their silly ill-mannered warm lemonade contests. I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I am heartily sick of it.

18 posted on 11/12/2008 1:44:24 PM PST by Ronin
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To: Star Traveler
Well, there is *no image* to improve — if — they are *not teaching* basic, historic and foundational Christian doctrines and teachings from the Bible (which they clearly admit, by their “denouncing” of these doctrines) that they are not!
 
 
I've noticed...



Jude 1:3
  Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
 



Romans 6:17
   But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.
 

 Romans 15:4
   For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
 

 Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
 

1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
 

1 Corinthians 11:1-2
 1.  Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.
 

Ephesians 4:14
   Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
 

2 Thessalonians 3:6
   In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.
 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 

1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
 

1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.

 
 2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
 

2 Timothy 2:2
  And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable men who will also be qualified to teach others.

Hebrews 13:8-9
 8.  Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
 9.  Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings. It is good for our hearts to be strengthened by grace, not by ceremonial foods, which are of no value to those who eat them.
 

2 John 1:10
   If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.
 

Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.


54 posted on 11/13/2008 3:56:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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