Posted on 11/12/2008 1:14:45 PM PST by SmithL
By my calculations, grassroots Mormons supplied about 40% of the funding for Prop 8. They should be commended for this.
Webster's New World Dictionary of the American Language describes persecution as:
to afflict or harass constantly so as to injure or distress; oppress cruelly, esp. for reasons of religion, politics, or race;
to trouble or annoy constantly [persecuted by mosquitoes].
While we, who oppose Mormonism, may plead guilty to annoying some Mormons by our incessant questions and research, we feel it is totally inaccurate for Latter-day Saints to say we are guilty of “harassing” them to the point of causing injury or distress. We have never “oppressed cruelly” any Mormon. Those who wish to engage in intelligent dialogue may even find we can be downright pleasant at times.
Should a person still not understand what persecution really means, please click here.
(Oh, of course. Mormons have 60,000 missionaries out there goin' door-to-door all because they are not there...
...to inform these residents that a full "restoration" has occurred with the Christian church -- meaning that a full apostasy took place, including EVERY Protestant, Catholic and orthodox church...
...but rather you'd have us believe that the $400 per month raised for LDS missionary support is spent merely "on supporting Christian values"
Meanwhile, you continue with your unbelievable assumptions that Christians don't spend $ on Christian values -- that all they do is preach to each other -- as if you had personal access to the timelog of every Christian! (What utter gall you have!)
So, 60,000 LDS missionaries never "preach" to these "300...Christian denominations" you reference -- but supposedly that's all "real Christians" do.
Please continue to post so we can see a more complete series of your stereotypes about Christians.
I have asked you several times to quit replying to me and quit sending me mail. Please quit stalking me.
ROFLMAO wow, I needed that, what a good laugh.....
(you weren't serious where you?)
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I would like to thank her for doing that.
“pointing to extensive Mormon organizing and the staggering amount of money donated by individual Mormons”
“The site attributes $15 million in donations to Mormons, or nearly half the Yes on 8 war chest in a state where Mormons make up 2 percent of the population.”
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Any group that can do this does tend to stick out of the crowd.
In just a week, many Californians and Americans are being subjected to Hate Crimes brought about by criminal gay deviates.
We don’t march and threaten gays with axes, axe handles, ball bats and other weapons, as done by Hate Filled Gays in a church as shown in the picture linked below:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129679/posts?page=1#1
More hate crimes committed by hostile Gay deviates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiwc9ybBiAw&feature=related
Vandals Target Mormon Church In Orangevale:
http://cbs13.com/local/Vandals.Strike.Orangevale.2.859342.html
Nor do we threaten elderly gays and rip their rainbows away from them. However gays committed this hate crime against an elderly Christian woman as shown in the link below. There will be a short bumper ad before it starts:
http://gatorgop.blogspot.com/2008/11/crazy-lefties-attack-old-lady-at-no-on.html
We can boycott the corporations funding the repeal of Prop 8.
There are many corporations funding the repeal of Prop 8.
This link takes us right to the corporate sponsor page to repel Prop 8:
http://laglc.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=SU_CORPORATIONS
Boycotts can work for our side too.
“However, *while* doing that — they also seek to be perceived as “just another denomination” of Christianity — which they are not. T
hey are a cult group — something that you wouldn’t have one Christian denomination say about another Christian denomination — but you do say it about Mormon teachings and doctrines. Thus — there’s the difference. It’s simply *not Christian* teaching and doctrine.”
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The LDS never claim to be a break off of another denomination when LDS believe that Jesus Christ himself throught Joseph Smith restored His Church once again on earth...
just remember “StarT” when the tribulation is in full bloom someday I know you will never allow yourself to knock at the gate of Zion looking for help!
I am sure for the last couple of hundred years your church has been preparing the flock to be ready!
It helps to focus!
Better ONE target than a lot.
(Sneaky way to get Evangelicals to kinda be on your side; too! ;^)
They do not fear GOD!
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.
The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.
This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."
Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.
Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.
2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'
August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said: "He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage." "That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...." (Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)
1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson "The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."
We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood. According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.
Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said: "The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty. (Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).
"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."
said,
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:
"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."
When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)
(From ---> http://www.i4m.com/think/comments/mormon-racism.htm )
Does ANYONE think that if it's Romney running in 2012; these HISTORY FACTS will stay HIDDEN???
MORMONs are NOT a 'denomination' of Christianity.
What is a Christian?
"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world"
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 270
"...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels."
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. , The Elders Journal, v. 1, no. 4, p. 60
"Brother Taylor has just said that the religions of the day were hatched in hell. The eggs were laid in hell, hatched on its borders, and then kicked on to the earth."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 6, p. 176
"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 199
"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent."
- Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255
This country can become as Communistic as Russia under Stalin, and the MORMONS will STILL be wrong.
This is about SOULS, not whether you agree with the dictator!
News to me.
And they still are!
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