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PASTOR AND POLITICS (Kalispell Pastor One Abomination Under God church sign)
News Channel 9 Kalispell ^ | 11/05/08 | Kari Kintner

Posted on 11/10/2008 7:36:12 AM PST by Terriergal

PASTOR AND POLITICS

Author: Kari Kintner (11/05/08)

A sign outside a church in Kalispell is causing a stir. It says, "USA...One Abomination Under God." Causing many to bring up the idea of separation of church and state.

A pastor in Kalispell says he has good reason for putting a sign up outside his church Wednesday. It says "USA...One Abomination Under God." Now, he didn't spell "abomination" the smae as "Obama-Nation," but it is his reaction to the election.

"As long as we still have free speech, we need to use it, to tell people that the nation is going in the wrong direction," Pastor Clint Theline said. Theline says voting Obama for president brings abomination to America, like more support for abortion, homosexuality, and more secular conversation in schools.

"God never calls us to unite with the wicked, so this is what's happening in America," Theline said.

"Are you saying Obama's wicked?" Reporter asks. "I'm saying that the left is," Theline said.

Another pastor in Kalispell says we should support the new president. "We have the responsibility to support those who are in authority, and to pray for those in authority," Coy Trammel said.

And others think the sign is a turn-off.

"I don't believe that what they did was a positive approach," Saul McLeod, a Kalispell resident, said.

They say "abomination" is too strong of a word, while others flat out call the pastor a racist who defies the Bible's message.

The pastor who put the sign up says he hopes people stop and think about what the word "abomination" means. He says the sign isn't supposed to be offensive.

Opinions aside, the church could find itself in trouble with the I.R.S. It's a tax exempt organization, and the Montana Department of Revenue says under that exemption, there are rules that say an exempt organization cannot engage in political campaigns or endorse candidates.

© 2008 Eagle Communications, Inc


TOPICS: Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abomination; churchandstate; election; kalispell
A good audio discussion of this can be found here
http://www.crosstalkamerica.com/shows/2008/11/usaone_abomination_under_god.php
1 posted on 11/10/2008 7:36:13 AM PST by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal
others flat out call the pastor a racist

A "racist" for simply expressing his disgust for the politics of the current Prez Elect. Expect more of the same -- the race card will be dealt with regularity.

2 posted on 11/10/2008 7:44:12 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Terriergal
"and the Montana Department of Revenue says under that exemption, there are rules that say an exempt organization cannot engage in political campaigns or endorse candidates."

Unless you're a black church, of course..........

3 posted on 11/10/2008 7:53:35 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Terriergal
I've asked this on at least one other thread -- when one is "employed" by any government employer -- for some employees who are to be privy to a great deal of our secrets (or one big secret) there is an extensive probe into the person's background -- and some things -- to include relations with improper or suspicious persons can disqualify many such persons.

These relations need not be close, but there cannot be any sense of improperiety, subversion or aversion to our nation.

My question is "when did Obama pass such scrutiny? Who gave him the "clearances needed" to be briefed on our top secrets? --

Too late now! He is "in" with no judicious vettng or passing of a clearance investigation.

What a crock!!!!!

4 posted on 11/10/2008 8:01:13 AM PST by AKA Elena (Perpetual Rosary at http://culion i.detmich.com/rosary.html)
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To: Terriergal

1. anything abominable; anything greatly disliked or abhorred.
2. intense aversion or loathing; detestation: He regarded lying with abomination.
3. a vile, shameful, or detestable action, condition, habit, etc.: Spitting in public is an abomination.

No mention of an American President Elect above. Whats the problem?


5 posted on 11/10/2008 8:05:56 AM PST by Pilated
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To: Mr. Mojo

I like this one — “Opinions aside, the church could find itself in trouble with the I.R.S. It’s a tax exempt organization, and the Montana Department of Revenue says under that exemption, there are rules that say an exempt organization cannot engage in political campaigns or endorse candidates.”

Opinions aside??? YA right! Vic Eliason had it right there in the radio program I linked to. “opinions aside” while the reporter expresses hers freely!


6 posted on 11/10/2008 8:06:55 AM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: AKA Elena
Too late now! He is "in" with no judicious vettng or passing of a clearance investigation. What a crock!!!!!

Just like the Clintoons x 1000

7 posted on 11/10/2008 8:07:44 AM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

He didn’t name a candidate, he didn’t endorse one, so there is no IRS violation. I’m not really sure there would be one anyway, unless he foolishly registered his church as a 501(c)(3) which is totally unnecessary.


8 posted on 11/10/2008 8:09:27 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: TommyDale

who knows. Regardless, even a 501c3 wouldn’t probably suffer except under a very liberal interpretation of the law. OH wait.. well, then I guess they better watch out!


9 posted on 11/10/2008 8:16:26 AM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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