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“…dispensationalists have followed the course of “end times” events with the consuming fascination of a betting man at a race track. In so doing they have virtually turned their backs on the world in which they live.” Os Guinness, Fit Bodies Fat Minds (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 1994), p. 67

“…[the] Plymouth Brethren who follow Mr. Darby. As on all hands, with a diligence never exceeded, and a subtlety never equaled, they are laboring to seduce the members of our churches to the subversion of the truth and the overthrow of the needful order and discipline…” Charles H. Spurgeon, author and Pastor of the Metropolitan Tabernacle

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Reformed Eschatology Ping List (REPL)
Biblically Optimistic and Gospel-Based

"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Luke 21:22)

[anniegetyourgun]

TO ALL THE WATCHMEN ON THE WALL – SOUND THE ALERT!

Consecrate yourselves.
Get your households in order.
Purify yourselves and the Church – casting out apostates, wolves in sheep clothing, and those living in unrepentant sin in your midst.
Wake up – Bride of Christ – cease living as though tomorrow is just the same as yesterday.
Tell everyone of the coming wrath. If they will not listen, shake the dust off your sandals and move on quickly. Leave the “calling out” to the LORD.
Do not fear; be of great courage and boldness.
Pray for there to be ears to hear and eyes to see….the Truth. Thy Word is Truth.
Prepare the way of the LORD.
Praise the Worthy Lamb, for His Kingdom is near.

[WalterSkinner]

..since you brought up J. Dwight Pentecost, it would be a good study to read "Things To Come", especially the chapters dealing with side by side analysis of the different modes of hermeneutics

Being from an Historical-Grammatical (literal) point of view with strong Dispensational leanings, I haven't heard one argument in 30 years that would change that.

But time will tell--watch the Middle East and see...

[Lee N. Field]

Oh, boy, this will set them off.

Y-all go read the whole thing.

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The argument - as I understand it - is not factual.
You might compare the gift of the land to conditions existing in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were allowed to eat from all the trees in the Garden save one. That tree, God reserved for himself.

God gave the earth to human kind, but one small portion of it He reserved for His chosen people, the Jews . This was not an absolute gift but one conditional upon obedience to the Law. Disobedience did not cancel God's gift itself but did mean loss of the land temporarily. His love remained and remains on His people - for the sake of His servants Abraham, Moses, and David, if for no other reason.

The coming of Messiah did not mean the gift was canceled but merely that the relationship between God and His people(and through His people to the whole world) had to change. Since it was obvious the Law could not be kept to any degree, the relationship had to be transformed into one based on acceptance of Jesus as the Lamb of God. When this did not happen, when the Jews were disobedient again, they forfeited the land - again.

God's love for the Jews remains. He has a plan for them. And this is certain: anyone who opposes God's plan will face destruction, whether that be Nazi Germany, Stalin's Russia, the new EU, the Islamic world, or preachers in this country or elsewhere.