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What's wrong with Catholic voters? What's wrong with Catholics?
Catholic Culture ^ | November 5, 2008 | Phil Lawler

Posted on 11/06/2008 6:36:40 AM PST by Alex Murphy

Yesterday, according to the exit polls, between 53 and 54% of American Catholic voters cast their ballots for Barack Obama, despite the Democratic candidate's enthusiastic support for unrestricted legal abortion.

Nationwide, Protestant voters supported John McCain, by a solid 54- 45% margin. But the Catholic vote broke for Obama. Why?

Earlier this week the US Conference of Catholic Bishops released a helpful listing of the 50 American states, with the proportion of population in each state. In 7 states, Catholics make up more than 30% of the population. Obama captured all 7 of those states on Election Day. In 8 states, Catholics account for less than 5% of the population. Seven of those states swung for McCain, and the 8th, North Carolina, is still listed as "too close to call" as I write this analysis.

To be sure, America's Catholic population is heavily concentrated in states that have a liberal political tilt. But is that a coincidence? Are those states hotbeds of liberalism despite the heavy Catholic presence, or because of it?

Yes, Catholics have traditionally leaned toward the Democratic Party for historical reasons. But why have Catholic voters remained doggedly loyal to a party that has come, in the early 21st century, to be wholly allied with the "culture of death" on issues such as abortion, euthanasia, same-sex marriage, and embryonic stem-cell research?

The support that Obama won among Catholic voters is noteworthy because in the last presidential contest, in 2004, President Bush won 52% of the Catholic vote while his opponent John Kerry-- himself a Catholic!-- managed only 46%. Catholic support for the Democratic candidate rose markedly in this campaign, even though the Democratic contender was the most militantly pro-abortion candidate ever to win a major party's presidential nomination.

This trend is all the more remarkable because over the course of the past several weeks, dozens of American bishops issued strong public statements reminding their people of their moral obligation to vote in defense of human life. Those statements varied in candor and in quality, but their overall impact was remarkable. The 2008 campaign produced a seismic change in the attitude of the American hierarchy; the bishops as a group were far more outspoken, far more explicit, than in any previous election.

And still most Catholics voted for Obama. Again: why?

Before answering that question, let me cite one more vitally important piece of polling information: Among Catholic voters who attend Mass weekly, McCain won majority support: 54- 45%. Among those who do not attend weekly Mass, the margin for Obama was an overwhelming 61- 37%. Thus Obama drew his support from inactive Catholics. And unfortunately, most American Catholics are inactive.

In an interview recorded just before Election Day, Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver explained that he had decided to take a prominent public stand on the obligations of Catholic voters because the "quieter approach to these things has not been effective." How right he was! He and many other prelates deserve the gratitude of loyal Catholics for their willingness to take a more energetic approach. This year, at last, the American bishops were clear and forthright in their teaching. Yet on Election Day it became evident that millions of American Catholics weren't listening.

Should we be surprised if Catholics ignore directives from the hierarchy? Should we be surprised that Catholics who do not attend Mass regularly-- thereby violating a precept of the Church-- ignore Church teachings on other issues as well? No, this result was predictable.

An entire generation of American Catholics has grown accustomed to dissent from Church teaching, and grown accustomed to seeing their bishops tolerate that dissent. In the 35 years since Roe v. Wade, Catholics have watched their Church leaders handle pro-abortion Catholic politicians with kid gloves, treating their moral treason as a minor annoyance rather than a public scandal. Yes, the bishops routinely denounced abortion; but at the same time they treated the public supporters of taxpayer-funded abortion with jovial deference. Puzzled lay Catholics concluded that the bishops didn't really take the issue too seriously, and the laity in turn stopped taking their bishops seriously. A few dozen statements from brave orthodox bishops in the autumn of 2008-- however clear, however compelling-- were not enough to undo a generation of damage.

Abortion is not an isolated issue. Lackadaisical American Catholics are not ignoring Church leadering on this issue alone, but on the entire range of Catholic teaching. Most Catholics skip Sunday Mass regularly. Most Catholics rarely if ever go to Confession. Most Catholics use contraceptives. Most Catholics do not believe in the Real Presence. Most Catholics no longer accept Church authority on any issue. Why should we be surprised, then, if on Election Day most Catholics ignore Church teachings on their moral obligation to vote in defense of human life?

For most of my life I have lived in Massachusetts, a state whose political culture was once thoroughly dominated by active Catholics. In my book The Faithful Departed: The Collapse of Boston's Catholic Culture I explain how that Catholic culture deteriorated, as the faithful drifted away from the Church, until today the political scene in Massachusetts is dominated not by Catholics but by ex-Catholics, thoroughly hostile to the teachings of the Church.

Are Catholics in other states following the same trend? Will the next presidential election see even strong support for the "culture of death" among voters who identify themselves-- inaccurately-- as believing Catholics? Regrettably, I see the same forces that corrupted Catholicism in my native state now active all across the nation.

To repair the damage, we must recognize that the problem is not restricted to abortion, nor to defense-of-life issues. Indeed it is not, strictly speaking, a political problem. To restore the integrity of the Catholic vote, we must first restore the integrity of the Catholic faith, and rebuild the foundations of a Catholic culture.

That will be my goal-- my crusade-- in coming years. I hope and pray you'll join me.


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To: pillut48
Those ‘pick and choose Church policy’ Catholics like Joe Biden and John Kerry, etc. should be excommunicated. Period.

I was disgusted at Mass last Sunday that there was not a word in the homily regarding the election. We got a quick mumbled petition about "voting with an informed conscience" and that's it. That said, I honestly do think that the FOCA is going to propel the Church to act on the apostates in the ranks. I do believe public excommunications will happen.

61 posted on 11/06/2008 7:07:56 AM PST by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: Lets Be Frank
I noticed several weeks ago, during the prolife week when the homilies are to be about the pro life issues, that the church wasn’t as full as normal. I started wondering if the pro choice dem catholics stay home every year during this week. It was an excellant homily.

We had a banner posted across the entrance to our Church announcing this but I did not hear any Homily about pro-life. I need to speak with the Monsignor and Bishop.

62 posted on 11/06/2008 7:09:17 AM PST by frogjerk (Welcome|Goodbye to|from Free|Fairness Doctrine Republic!)
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To: workerbee
I was disgusted at Mass last Sunday that there was not a word in the homily regarding the election. We got a quick mumbled petition about "voting with an informed conscience" and that's it. That said, I honestly do think that the FOCA is going to propel the Church to act on the apostates in the ranks. I do believe public excommunications will happen.

Same here although I do not wish anyone to be excommunicated. God wills not the death of any sinner but they are given free will to accept or not.

63 posted on 11/06/2008 7:11:31 AM PST by frogjerk (Welcome|Goodbye to|from Free|Fairness Doctrine Republic!)
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To: Alex Murphy
Are those states hotbeds of liberalism despite the heavy Catholic presence, or because of it?

Largely because of it. The Catholic Church has been very supportive of socialist schemes, including unions that are given huge power by government. And of course, Catholics who marry early, don't use contraceptives (or abortion), and have lots of children tend to be heavy users of the socialist schemes, having rendered themselves unable to support their families without government/taxpayer handouts. I don't think you'll find a lot of "believing Catholics" voting against the various universal health care proposals. "Free health insurance from the government for my 7 kids? Awesome, of course I'll vote for the candidate promising that!"

64 posted on 11/06/2008 7:11:49 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Alex Murphy

What’s wrong with Catholic voters? What’s wrong with Catholics?

They choose to SIN(as do many others who also call themselves “Christian”). ;-(


65 posted on 11/06/2008 7:12:19 AM PST by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: frogjerk

I don’t “wish” it either, but excommunication is something they choose with their actions already, not something imposed on them by the Church.


66 posted on 11/06/2008 7:13:50 AM PST by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
I do not see why Kerry, Biden, and Pelose have not been publicly excommunicated.

Because they support the socialist programs and non-eneforcement of immigration laws that the Church approves of.

67 posted on 11/06/2008 7:13:50 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: pierrem15

George W. Bush has been staunch in his pro-life support. He banned federal tax dollars being used for embryonic stem cell research. He tried hard to save Terri Schiavo along with other politicians though that turned out tragic. He has always spoken on the sanctity of life. More so than any Catholic politician I can think of.


68 posted on 11/06/2008 7:14:18 AM PST by NoKoolAidforMe ("Victory at all costs...for without true victory, there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: Alex Murphy
Yes those states are a hot bed of liberalism, and most are illegal alien sanctuary cradle to grave welfare states to boot.

Even the Catholic church acts as a sanctuary for these illegals, and the Catholic church here in the U.S. has taken a weak stance on abortion.

Those are two reasons why I'm a non-practicing Catholic.

69 posted on 11/06/2008 7:16:37 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (0bama will NEVER be my President)
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To: pierrem15

You make a good point. I had a discussion with younger family members who were on the fence about voting for McCain or Obama. Their response to my pro-life argument was that abortion would be legal in four years regardless of whether Obama or McCain was president. My argument about possibly moving the Supreme Court to the right with a McCain win fell on deaf ears.

They have a point. The Republican party has had ending abortion as a plank in it’s platform for decades, yet it’s no closer to being outlawed than it ever was. I think that’s part of the reason why the pro-life argument doesn’t resonate anymore with a lot of people, especially young people. They see lotsa talk before every election, but little action afterwards.


70 posted on 11/06/2008 7:16:45 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: workerbee
I don’t “wish” it either, but excommunication is something they choose with their actions already, not something imposed on them by the Church.

Agreed, they excommunicate themselves.

71 posted on 11/06/2008 7:16:53 AM PST by frogjerk (Welcome|Goodbye to|from Free|Fairness Doctrine Republic!)
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To: IrishCatholic
You nailed it. It is like a parent that never teaches or disciplines their children and suddenly can’t understand why their teenager is out of control and won’t listen. The Bishops need to start over and teach and lead or this won’t change.

I've been to this rodeo before. I used to be a < shudder > Episcopalian, and I saw where celebrity-worship and political expediency on the part of the leadership takes a church.

The Catholics are the best group (because the best organized) to spearhead a Christian revival. If the weak-kneed American bishops will just retire and/or get out of the way so that BXVI and his new appointments can kick posterior and take names (in the nicest way of course) then we can get started.

72 posted on 11/06/2008 7:21:47 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: frogjerk
"Nolo mortem peccatoris."

We gotta remember that, and also to pray for them.

73 posted on 11/06/2008 7:23:24 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

” He banned federal tax dollars being used for embryonic stem cell research.”

Where do people get this idea? GW was the first president to authorize federal funds for embryonic stem cell research. There was no federal funding before him (Clinton allowed embryonic research but stipulated no federal funds).

Because there was no economic advantage to embryonic research there was very little of it. Bush’s action opened the flood gates of embryonic research. What you fund, you get more of.


74 posted on 11/06/2008 7:26:23 AM PST by Varda
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To: Alex Murphy

If people don’t accept the real Presence, they are not Catholics, and should quit identifying themselves as such.
The Church needs to spend more effort on instruction in the heterodox Catechism and purge itself of priests whose enthusiasms are for social or political causes rather than the Faith.


75 posted on 11/06/2008 7:28:11 AM PST by steve8714 (Keep your hands off my thermostat!)
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To: steve8714

Too smart by half; “heterodox” should be “orthodox”.


76 posted on 11/06/2008 7:29:07 AM PST by steve8714 (Keep your hands off my thermostat!)
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To: Alex Murphy
I think a good bit of the problem is in the "social justice" area, because most churches have "social justice" ministries which are all for helping out all the immigrants, poor, sickly, etc., and I think they believe that helping the underdog is what Jesus wants them to do, which is correct, but not as "government policy" because that's socialism, and they don't know about papal encyclicals against "socialism" because no one tells them. They think they should vote democratic because the democrats are for helping out the poor. They fail to distinguish between "individual responsibility" and "group" responsibility. The "community" always seems to be at the foremost of their thinking. That's sort of a disconnect.

Even though many would vote against abortion backers, they diminish the issue in favor of helping out the poor.

History hasn't been taught in this country for a long, long time, clearly.

77 posted on 11/06/2008 7:31:17 AM PST by vharlow (http://www.harlowhome.com)
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To: Alex Murphy
What about the 45% of Mass attending Catholics that voted for Obama?

Reason: Too many Catholic churches and too many Catholic schools worship Marxist “social justice” instead of God.

So?...When a Marxist presidential candidate comes along is it any wonder that 45% of Mass attending Catholics think he is God?

78 posted on 11/06/2008 7:31:52 AM PST by wintertime
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To: 2CAVTrooper

The Church’s stance on abortion is less weak than it is muddled by the Bernardinites in power positions. I want to puke every time I hear capital punishment mentioned with abortion and euthanasia.


79 posted on 11/06/2008 7:31:58 AM PST by steve8714 (Keep your hands off my thermostat!)
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To: P8riot

I doubt if many of the Catholics that voted for Obama ever go to confession. I know lots of good Catholics, who do go to Mass every Sunday and are pro-life who do not believe that you must go to Confession at least once a year. They tell me I’m wrong that you only need to go if you have committed a mortal sin.


80 posted on 11/06/2008 7:32:28 AM PST by Barb4Bush (I'll like voting for McCain a lot better now that Sarah is on the ticket.)
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