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Bid to make women 'announcers' of Gospel stirs debate
www.disciplesworld.com ^ | 10/31/08 | Luigi Sandri

Posted on 11/03/2008 11:35:05 AM PST by Publius804

Bid to make women 'announcers' of Gospel stirs debate (10/31/08)

By Luigi Sandri, Ecumenical News International

ROME (ENI, 10/31/08) — Pope Benedict XVI's consideration of a proposal made to him by a worldwide gathering in Rome of more than 250 Roman Catholic bishops that women should be authorized to "announce" the word of God at parish services is stirring debate as to what the move would ultimately entail.

The proposal was one of 55 "propositions" agreed by the bishops at their Oct. 6-26 meeting, called a synod. It urged, "that the ministry of the 'lectorate' will be open also to women, in order that their role of announcers of the Word [of God] will be recognized in the Christian community."

Within the Catholic Church, the "lectorate" was, historically, one of the four separate "minor orders" of the Catholic Church, and referred to persons — until now, only men — authorized to read the Holy Scriptures to the congregations. For many centuries, the "lectorate" was seen a step towards priestly ordination.

Still, this position is widely seen as having lost its significance, since the Second Vatican Council, held between 1962 and 1965, which introduced reforms into the Catholic Church. Since then, in many, if not most, parishes, men and women read from the Scriptures during the liturgy. Both men and women often offer commentaries on the text, without being officially installed in the lectorate.

Some commentators have suggested that the proposal by the bishops refers only to women being officially installed to publicly read from Scripture, but others say the use of the phrase "announcers of the Word" has a more far-reaching significance.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; femaleordination; gospel; popebenedict
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Opinions? I'm not sure what this would mean exactly.
1 posted on 11/03/2008 11:35:07 AM PST by Publius804
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To: Publius804

sounds great.


2 posted on 11/03/2008 11:40:16 AM PST by Cousin Eddie
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To: Publius804

The 16th Amendment provided for a tax on individual income not to exceed 1%.

What percent are you paying today?

It’s the camel’s nose for the RCC.


3 posted on 11/03/2008 11:41:53 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Publius804

Yeah...I have an opinion...it’s dumb that this is even a question in 2008.

Women are every bit as capable as men in all facets of religious activity. Period.

And to all of those who will scurry off to find Bible passesages to support this nonsense...don’t bother.....I’ll just delete them. (Try reasoning it out for yourself ...just this once....)


4 posted on 11/03/2008 11:42:44 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Yeah, but it is just a suggestion. We will see..but you are right about the camel’s nose. Some pesky aging bishops still want to change things before they sign off.


5 posted on 11/03/2008 11:49:12 AM PST by Publius804 (McCain-Palin '08)
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To: HappyinAZ

No bible quotes, just your own words.

“Try reasoning it out for yourself.”


6 posted on 11/03/2008 11:53:17 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Publius804

Bad idea.

Girl Altar Boys was a bad idea, too.


7 posted on 11/03/2008 11:54:23 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Yeah does HappyinAZ have trouble with an all male priesthood?


8 posted on 11/03/2008 11:55:50 AM PST by Publius804 (McCain-Palin '08)
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To: NYer; Salvation

ping


9 posted on 11/03/2008 11:58:08 AM PST by aposiopetic
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I did....and the conclusion is the same...Women are just as capable as men to serve is ALL capacites for our Lord. period.

All other conclusions are irrational and come to in error and under the guise of “interpretations of the scipture”.


10 posted on 11/03/2008 12:00:04 PM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: HappyinAZ

Happy are you Catholic?


11 posted on 11/03/2008 12:01:33 PM PST by Publius804 (McCain-Palin '08)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Bad idea. Bad, bad, bad. And I am a woman. Jesus was a MAN.


12 posted on 11/03/2008 12:06:08 PM PST by informavoracious (Oust all incumbents.)
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To: Publius804

hey I’m okay with it-I just don’t want any more women announcers for college football. The ones they’re pushing on us now are bad enough.


13 posted on 11/03/2008 12:12:21 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: Publius804

On Fr Z’s blog IIRC the status currently of women lectors is that of a substitute for an official lector. So they can be subs but not officially installed as a lector. Since thye have been doing this for 40 years now, the libs want to make it official they can be installed as an official lector.

If we have to accept this, let it be for the NO only, please.


14 posted on 11/03/2008 12:52:46 PM PST by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: Piers-the-Ploughman

I trust Pope Benedict XVI’s judgment in such matters. He has been good at keep the silliness out. Catholic liberals should just leave - just go. They can join a million other denominations.


15 posted on 11/03/2008 1:01:25 PM PST by Publius804 (McCain-Palin '08)
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To: informavoracious
Jesus was a MAN.

And the Mother of God was a WOMAN!

Would you deny to Her the ability to read scripture to the congregation?

Interesting.

16 posted on 11/03/2008 1:05:59 PM PST by dmz
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To: Publius804

I’m confused. Are they talking about reading the Old Testament, Psalms, Epistles, etc., or are they talking about reading the Gospel? There’s a big difference. Lay people, irrespective of sex, do not proclaim the Gospel during Mass.


17 posted on 11/03/2008 1:17:03 PM PST by Tax-chick ("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
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To: Publius804; aposiopetic; Salvation
Opinions? I'm not sure what this would mean exactly.

First of all, the title is misleading. Women would not be allowed to read the Gospel. The synod members proposed "that the ministry of the 'lectorate' will be open also to women, in order that their role of announcers of the Word [of God] will be recognized in the Christian community."

Simply put, women who currently serve as lectors would be considered members of a 'ministry' - PERIOD. Now, in the event the Holy Father approves this, you can be absolutely certain that some progressive bishops will concoct a formal ceremony replete with pomp and circumstance. I serve as lector in my small parish because there are no men willing to do this. But if this turns into some formal vesting ceremony, then I will stop serviing as lector.

18 posted on 11/03/2008 1:46:13 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Publius804
Me either. I was about to post this, too, I'm glad you did. I think it is the last ditch effort of dissenters who want oppositional ideas heard.

The proposal was one of 55 "propositions" agreed by the bishops at their Oct. 6-26 meeting, called a synod.

Well, this pretty much explains it. The womyn-priestess movement must be crossing their fingers. Joan and crowd got their bishop friends to 'introduce' the idea. Announcers. What does that even mean?

19 posted on 11/03/2008 3:08:14 PM PST by fortunecookie (Robin Hood is a legitimate hero, because he returned to the poor what lawfully belonged to them.)
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To: HappyinAZ
Women are every bit as capable as men in all facets of religious activity. Period.

I agree. Capable. Pretty much in all facets of any activity, even if men and women approach it from different angles. Recent research confirms we are equally capable in most things, even if we think and process in different ways. But that doesn't mean women need to be there, functioning as priestesses. For many Catholics, like me, it's an unwelcome intrusion pushed by feminazis of the 70's.

20 posted on 11/03/2008 3:12:29 PM PST by fortunecookie (Robin Hood is a legitimate hero, because he returned to the poor what lawfully belonged to them.)
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